Fuck Islam

An effective method might be to translate into sanskrit which is a manufactured techonological language emerging from our common root of the vedic idiom or the indo european familily of idiomatic languages.

 

i don't know it for a fact. The correct way to interpret anything is based on the quality of our own sensations. Anxiety about the nature of our experience always points to misapprehension. One of the things that some islamist say is that the quran is only fully intelligable in arabic. It is simply another ego device and such an ego always establishes it's conviction based on how others are different from themselves. if that is not enough such an ego will revert to the community mindset to justify their own aberrations That is how they claim their worthy identitiy. But taxonomical distinctions are based on how we are the same and in every instance we are tasting and knowing man. Our fundamental security is bound in the notion that we can distingusih one thing from another. Humanity is the same for every human.
in fact the bible is a collection of books. A book is a repository of symbols which must interpreted with experience to be understood.

 

it seems that in fact the quran has been translated in sanskrit, and then in turned to english.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A86.JygambFUgm0Aw8APxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTBsOXB2YTRjBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--?p=has+the+quran+been+translated+into+sanskrit&tnr=21&vid=10582ABA5C315881DB3310582ABA5C315881DB33&l=6190&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUN.608014361323441732%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDKJTJ97Hwgk&sigr=11bd42dkm&tt=b&tit=The+Noble+Quran+30%2F30+%28Juz+%26%2339%3BAmma%29&sigt=115ockuha&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dhas%2Bthe%2Bquran%2Bbeen%2Btranslate%2Binto%2Bsanskrit%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&sigb=13m0p5dn5&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

 

All these Islamic countries could benefit greatly from a constitution that requires a separation of church and state, as a starting point. That would deal a significant blow to fundamentalism.

At this point in time, the eradication of all organized religion seems like a luxury to me, not a necessity. Before we reach a point where moderate and liberal religious institutions are our biggest problem, a lot of time will have gone by, and a huge number of major problems will have been solved. All of us will probably be dead by then.

 

At this point institutionallity is suspect.

 

I was just stating the fact that Hitler was a Catholic, obviously the same as you were stating a fact that Mao or Stalin were Atheists, for surely you were not implying that their actions reflect on all Atheists.

(BTW, Stalin was a sociopath and quite possibly still held Orthodox beliefs to himself as that was politically expedient. Can't trust sociopaths with an agenda).

 

During the Middle Ages while Xtians were in Ireland making palimpsests and beer the Muslims developed math, astronomy, alchemy (chemistry) and had the great libraries of the world. Today wealth is very much unequally divided and resources are nil for the poor. Education and poverty are a 1:1 ratio. You can't blame the religion. You can only blame the politicians and criminals. The regular person is neither here nor there and Muslims are great people.

Nobody is beating up priests because the Pope says 2% are pederasts.

 

No. Muslims found math, astronomy, and alchemy. All invented or conceived by other societies. They did not develop anything. The books in the libraries were not theirs.

And contrary to widespread belief they did not even discover coffee.

 

The way I look at it. I have to comprehend what moves them. in reviewing the sankrit to english translation of the quran I find the same enduring principles I find everywhere in these types of teachings. Having recognized that I am confident that one on one i could discuss in a meaningful way their faith with them becasue it is essentialy my own. Sectarian claims have nothing to do with the literature that sectarians build their case on but more to do with immature ego claiming for itself special status.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593

 

All knowledge is common inheritence, knowledge being shared.

 

It makes no difference what Islam achieved in previous epochs.

In today's world it's simply an anachronism - same as Christianity and the rest. Something that holds people back. Keeps them locked into medieval notions of morality and the way to run a society.

It has become a tool of oppression wielded by some of the worst people on the planet.

It's also worth noting that the technology the jihadists rely on is all of western invention. If we'd never invented the internal combustion engine, where would they be with their oil?
Still raiding each other for camels in the desert I assume.

 

Forgetting for a fact that it's a source which uses words like "zionist entity", all it says is that he got language and military training for 1 year.

 

It is not true that what has happend in the past does not reflect on the present. .

Worst people? You one of the good people then? How do you measure another persons value? Religion maintains it's value. It's value has always been determined by the people who value it. Those who do not simply dismiss it and denigrate it. It is no ones fault but your own if you can't find value in the world and it's phenomena. If you are finding negative value of course that is your perrogative. In doing so however you will find yourself in confrontation with a large part of society. Of course the grity experience many never be appeciated as we ponificate from the comfort of our living rooms. You would be hard pressed to defend your position in person to one who has a good head about his religious experience. Fact is very few succeed by any route at finding unremitting satifaction. Your attitiude isn't bright or refreshing it's more like facist in your assumptions.

 

Not so friend. A persons choices do that. If religion doesn't make great people it doesn't make horrible people either.

 

Man is a family and everone has their own idiot cousin. He is not less cousin being an idiot however. How we treat him reflects on the health of the entire family.