Fuck Islam

Think its more of a cultural problem with places that are mostly muslim rather than a problem with the religion itself

 

I did not make a personal attack, I didn't bash anyone. It is just that I am just as critical as the OP and I am trying to point out where he is going wrong (imo). And I never thought you're the subject of this thread, thanks. If I included you personally in some post of me it doesn't mean it is about you, but I do it because I am reacting to the content of your posts. If I piss you off with some of what I wrote it is not because I am trying to insult. We just think very differently where it comes to blaming and religion I guess.

 

So by thread title it appears the purpose of this thread is to commit indecent acts with religious ideas.that seems very abstract and open to all kinds of treatments. What occurs to me is that it is not a solution for what really ails us. I think the solution lies somewhere in our own neighborhood as we lean to someone to lovingly fuck.

 

Was the point made. diety not responsible.

 

Many of you responders to me, Oscar, seemed to have missed the part where I said " kill the jihadists ". Those moslems devoted to killing any non-moslems.

 

They killed quite a few people due to their antitheism

 

It begins with childhood education. Family is the model for a bilogical creatures sense of rightness. Our protections extend naturally to those things we call our own. this is the model that should guide political management of the world. it is inate and utterly simple to accomplish. It simply requires the recognition that our previous learning has failed to establish any certainty in our lives.

 

Hear hear!

Hey, the first 2 points are just as valid Meagain. But I am selecting this part because it is the core for me and many in this thread who are arguing for proper blaming (if we must) and proper adressing of who is responsible for this and not include and stigmatize people because others can't look objective due to their own dislike and prejudice. I don't see how it doesn't make sense for openminded tolerant and peaceloving people to hate an entire group of people for their religion. We don't have to like this religion AT ALL, but if we care about freedom we tolerate (and ideally accept) that there are people thinking, believing and proclaiming stuff we disagree with.

 

Let killers kill.

 

Hey thedope, You are a dope. Atheists are not committed to killing people for no reason. All atheists are NOT the same as Stalinists for example. Stalin was an atheist but it does NOT follow that all atheists think like Stalin. That is preposterous. What about Ben Franklin and even George Washington ?

 

LOL...That is the first time I have laughed today......."lovingly......"

Seems to be what it is all about, eh? not here.....

 

No, I did not miss that, I guess we don't see the point in reacting to that part. It is understandable. You might wanna focus on the parts we actually did respond to as those are the parts we found worthy to correct (or at least react to)

 

The motivation is not anti but idealistic. Doesn't have anything to do with religion nor is religion the culprit for insisting on our own sense of rightness. that is a function of the necessary requirements of the human psyche to have security in life. What provides personal security is not defenses, every one can muster something of those. It is understanding the environment in correct proportions as opposed to abstract proportions that keeps you from encountering misshap like falling into holes, using an elephant gun to kill a mosquito, and adding injury to insult.

 

Hey killers find reasons to kill. Carry on. No one believes they are not themselves justified in their right actions.

 

It is here also, everyone is looking for their own satifaction. Thing is in an ecological environment we can't have that unless it is shared.

 

as a human race shared in solutions you mean to world problems....right?

 

Yeah, they didn't literally proclaim it to do out of atheism but their belief system surely influenced it (or maybe they abused this belief system in the same way religion is often abused as an excuse/false reason). I acknowledge that there were political reasons for their actions but hey, this is almost always the case in a religious or civil war, right. The difference is without their adopted and by them perverted belief systems they would not have ruled their country like they did.
This does not seem to count for Hitler, who maybe was born and raised as a catholic christian but did not actually seem to act upon that belief. He did actively intimidate church leaders to get them to support him however and if a priest or reverend would be caught helping jews or other enemies of nazi-germany they would get killed.

So yeah, I still hope Shale explains how he ment that statement about Hitler and christianity.

 

Just felt like pointing out that these extremist muslims are just as devoted to kill other muslims than only non-muslims.

Well, big suprise here: what we are trying to make clear is that it is the same with theists. Not all religious believers are the same as the ones that killed the people at Charlie Hebdo (to proclaim they are actually all the same and all committed to killing would be just as preposterous ). Do you acknowledge that?

 

Righteous indignation is a childish fantasy about your own culpability in your own experience and your contribution to the one we share. If constructed as leaving creature it appears to have two different heads going in different directions like a push me pull you from the tale of Dr. Doo Little. Not a remedy for success. There is no indignity in righteousness and your dignity is not maintained unless you share it with all.

 

Do you " thedope " even think jihadists give ANY thought to the environment ? Please try and give an honest answer.