Fuck Isis

What worries me in pics like the one below is the presence of young children.
If you teach them that this is ok, and brainwash them like this from young age then so many battles are already lost.

 

wow

 

AND---I want to know who has lost any rights and what they are. ( I'm not speaking about the blacks, womens rights , gays or any other "sub groups" that are STILL fighting for their full rights.)

The right to speak freely and call my own kid boy because of losers
The right to a decent income as a citizen, to be replaced by poverty and ebt so "everybody gets the same"
The right to be proud of just being "ok" because more earth losers need to be "more ok" and it's my fault
The right to expect a decent future buried alive in a ghetto of inferior stupidity and base ugliness
The right to ignore people no one even wants to hear from anyway

But, I'm sure famine, pestilence and what else follows populations like rats will kick in soon and help....

 

You seem to think that the word can only be used for governing organizations that are wanted by the people that they control. Not true.

In almost every war, there is at least one side that has governmental legitimacy issues. That's often how those wars get started.

ISIS is governing the territory that it controls, just as the Taliban does in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The people hate it, but they have no choice, unless they can escape and flee to another area.

 

I'm sorry, but I don't think that at all and I don't even believe you think I do.

 

I don't know what else to say. I've explained my use of the word the best that I can.

 

They can assume the role of government but if nobody acknowledges that government, not in that country or outside, it really is not a government for anybody except themselves. They can only play as if because the country is in extreme chaos. Nobody even calls them a government, that should tell you something. Sorry but it is really hard to just agree to disagree on this one. I'll try to anyway

 

As the number of failed states in the world multiplies, so does the land area governed, controlled, managed (pick your favorite term) by gangs, warlords, militias, thugs, and tyrants of all kinds, who do things in ways that are not in any way acceptable by Western civilized standards. Unfortunately, these situations can persist for years. When was the last time all of Somalia was under the control of what we think of as a conventional government? Yet, life goes on in every village.

 

They are really more of a gang/militia with a warlord though, than what the consensus regard and acknowledge as a government. But enough of this. I think we understand eachother's pov's and also that we won't convince eachother of it.

 

This is mostly a language issue, so you can't win this one. The English word "government" is so vague and generic that it means very little without a limiting adjective in front of it. It can be almost anything that involves a group exercising control over a geographic area. If a band of criminals takes over your town, starts patrolling the streets, directing traffic, issuing driver's licenses and marriage licenses, and arresting people for violating their laws, they are your government, at that moment in time. It doesn't matter who they are, how legal it is, how they came to power, or how long they stay in power.

I'm guessing that the word in your native language is somewhat more specific and narrow, maybe like the English phrase "civil government" or "civilian government".

Capiche? Comprendo?

Where is my upside down question mark when I need it?

 

So now that Osama bin Laden's dead (or is he?) then Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is our new Emmanuel Goldstein, promoted by the puppet masters to keep us on the defensive. And our corporate-controlled media is doing all it can to keep us in the dark. So when is the revolution coming?

 

Osama Bin Laden died back in 2001.

 

What? No. Its not all about the US.

 

Big sigh... You know it is really hard to give you the last word when you go this route Not that I agree with you that we largely have the same view on what ISIS is and that this is not much more than a semantic issue indeed. But I am not out to win anything! I already tried twice to just give it a rest (comprendre? ). Unfortunately I am at least as stubborn as you I do not even have to try to win this when you tried to compare ISIS as a governing organisation to the american south in the civil war (who for one, and this is a big point, got lots of support from the local - their own - people. ). The main use to compare them to that is to point out the differences imo.

I have the same thoughts about what a waste and pity this is, and how sad and a shame that these remnants of a historic civlisation that survived the time and many generations of people., that they took the effort of saving it in a museum and that it now deliberately get smashed to pieces by a bunch of misguided hooligans.
I just thought I'd say I thought you worded it a bit unlucky (which should have been no big deal). I even went out of my way to say I could have read it into it myself.

Keep on trucking

 

Fucking retarded morons

 

Yes, both seem accurate descriptions of the culprits who tore that historic stuff up.

 

Still can't read a dictionary? North Korea's government gets no voluntary support from its people. It is still a government.

 

Must. Resist. Aargh... It's also recognized as a government by other countries. I quit this shit.

 

Also not a part of the word's definition.

Enough already!

 

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