Freemason Conspiracy

Thanks for calln' my father a dork! He's probably got more philanthropy and political involvement and community involvement in his pinky finger than most of the 'hippies' on this board. Pretty good for an uneducated bricklayer. He was the first Catholic master of his lodge. Master twice. DDGM. and serves on the Masonic Foundation as a liason to Autistic causes.

So easy to be an asshole on the internet...so easy to forget that these are real people.

But I guess you've proven my point - every group has it dorks. I know a lot of intelligent conspiracy theorists and some with many valid points but folk like you with trite replies bring thier whole message down.

There is NOTHING in this world that is so easily black and white.

 

Very few people know the true nature of Freemasonry. They don't understand that the lower masons are given a different version of the organization than what it truly is at the highest levels. As Albert Pike said, the initiates of the lower degrees (the Blue Lodge) are no different than the "profane" (the ignorant masses), and are merely to be used as a cover for what goes on at the higher levels. They hide behind charity, which is just a facade making them immune to any criticism in the eyes of the public.

Let's keep in mind that the large majority of Freemasons never make it past the first three degrees. These people are never given anything that even resembles the truth about the organization to which they belong.

As far as masons being satanists.... well, many of the higher level masons who run the world truly are evil and have no remorse for the things they do. The God of masonry, as stated by Albert Pike of the Scottish Rite, is Lucifer. Lucifer, in actuality, is symbolic of hidden knowledge and intelligence -- the knowledge that is kept from the "profane" and used to control the masses, enslaving them. Lucifer is the light bearer, represented as the morning star, and this is why those who are intelligent are often considered "bright."

Once we understand there are more than just 33 degrees to Freemasonry, that there are, in actuality, 360 degrees (as represented by the snake eating its tail), we can better understand that there is a whole other level that even the 33 degree Freemasons are not aware of. Masons don't learn the real nature of the organization until they reach the 40th degree, and this is where the saying "life begins at 40" comes from. At this level these people believe they have attained Godhood, thus have the right to rule over the masses they view as nothing more than cattle to be used to serve their system. Their motto is to "perfect that which is left imperfect." This idea of "perfection" revolves around creating a society of people devoid of any individuality, who will be slaves for their coming utopia on earth. They literally seek to reshape humanity as we know it, and this is where microchips and genetic experimentation come in. They seek to create what is known as a "New Man."

 

Youre mighty welcome!
Screw philanthropists, screw politics al politicians are crooked, and their communities suck balls, plastic communities, not my community, Their communitys mow their lawns and fine anyone who doesnt, all they care about is humans, they dont care about the woods, Screw catholoics, screw anybody who calls themself Master, Yes sir master, Ohhh, autism, hey, ever see an autistic lion? How bout a deer? No, cause the natural way eliminates that. Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are not real people, they are fake peaple,
Screw everyone who adheres to the Luciferian doctrine,
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Thats probly true, considering how peace loving hippies arent allowed in their evil gang/mafia/mob.
Peace,
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Well, I mentioned what I think of Albert Pike already. (I bought the morals and dogma book for my dad for xmas once)

As for this, well there are many people who aren't masons that run the world and are just as 'truly evil' (whatever that means) Honestly I find what seems as 'world domination' plot to make the world just like them, is common with just about all monotheistic cults. So yeah, maybe there's a barvarian illuminati / masonic / spaghetti monster plot going on. But it really has nothing to do with day-to-day masonry and alot of these 'blue lodgers' are indeed out there doing good work.

If you could hook me up with more stuff on this 40th degree I'd really appreciate it. I vaguely remember the 360 thing coming from Allan Watts (whom I really like). My gut feeling is telling my it's a sub-sect thing but I'd really love to see some hard copy on it.

Kudos to Pressed Rat for being intelligent though! Treadge just comes off as a raving 'tard.

 

Anyone who subscribes to these theories don't believe that the lower levels are bad people, as you said they do some good work, the point is about the people running the entire show, the people at the top. It's never the ones at the bottom who become corrupt.

Same goes for everything that they run from police to church, it's never the people at the bottom.

 

If this information is so secret that even the 33rd degree masons don't know it, than how the fuck do you know it? Care to site some sources? I thought not.

 

Outta curiosity: Who here has actually met a 33rd degree Mason?

*raises hand*

Hell, in the beginning Masonry didn't even have a 3rd degree...But such is the evolution of an organization.

I guess to sum up my perspective though: Masonry is no better or worse than any other religious or political organization. A very few number of bigwigs got their hands in a few things and other group's bigwigs have thier hands in a few things. It's the way the world goes 'round as long as the almighty dollar rules.

It's appealing stuff to read and is a facinating and sometimes bloody history but I guess I've just read so much conspiricy that it's just become like an annoying broken record. Some of it is solid and a good deal of it is flakey conjecture.

And Xac, The first bit was more the reply to PR and the last bit was put in for the benifit of the 'tard boy that was indeed saying that the lowbies are evil too.

 

The information I know is information I know from studying it extensively for several years. I have been around people who have been studying it all their lives, and I have also been around a couple high-level freemasons myself. I am not going to get into any further detail about it, nor am I asking you to believe what I say. I am only telling you what I know.

 

I have. More than one.

Not all 33 degree masons are "in the know" to the global agenda, either.

 

Keep in mind there are many different rites of Freemasonry.... not just the Scottish and York rites. It's true that the Scottish Rite only goes up to the 33rd degree, but there are rites much higher than that, which have many more degrees. An example would be the 96 degrees of the Mizraim Rite, or the 90 degrees of the Memphis Rite.

 

I'd forgotten about the Memphis Rite. It's been a while since I've delved into this and I've the memory of a pothead. But that's what I was trying to get at. There are changes and evolutions and sects within sects going on that somethings just don't apply when critizing Masonry in general.

Sometime after I decided that I was too agnostic bordering on atheism to join the Clandestine lodge, my interest in Masonry waned somewhat. I love the ritual though and as a bricklayer's daughter, there will always be a place in my heart for it's symbols. I was also always very grateful on how my father approached my interest as a kid. He'd never tell me too much outright but he'd pass long books and leave me to figure it all out. Who doesn't like to solve a mystery? And the conspiracy stuff really appealed to me then as well but I dunno...I guess it's just become so cliche in a way that I can't help being a Luciferian Advocate. *snirtle*

 

You aren't that girl from the DaVinci Code are you?

 

*shifty eyes*

 

:bs:

 

I smell bullshit

 

i'm pretty sure there's more than meets the eye to the masonic world. besides it's only natural to suspect someone's up to no good if they act all secretive about a lot of their activities. a lot of famous men including us presidents have been members of masonic lodges. but i do applaud them for their work with sick kids. a dude i know, his dad was a cop in independence, missouri and a high ranking mason. 2,000 free masons attended his funeral. there probably is something to the claim of certain masons being part of a new world order. by the way, the modern knights templar has no connection to the knights templat that fought in the crusades and were accused by the catholic church of worshiping a being called baphomet. if i remember right the modern knights templar are part of york rite free masonry. here's a sizable list of notable people involved in the masonic world. http://www.nndb.com/org/426/000041303/
i don't think it's any coincidence that so many famous people have come from masonic stock. and yes chawk, several presidents have been masons. note george washington's name is on this list. could it be that treadge and capt zeep are the same person? one calls this out as being a bunch of bullshit and the other seems so sarcastic about it all. then right exactly after one of them posts the other one says "oops double post". some disguises work better than others i suppose.

 

i find it wierd how about every single president has been part of some sort of fraternal organisation. and the pyramid-eye on the dollar bill is unnerving. i guess id never know anything true unless if i joined it

 

They took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of the God Remphan, images which they made to worship, and so shall they become like Babylon.

 

There is so much information to support what pressed rat has spoken of. In fact, things go back as far as the ancient religion of babylon. My husband and I have researched these things for many many years.Open your eyes captain - get on google - there is ample evidence available if you're not too lazy to take a look. Have a go at actually thinking for yourself - use your own mind. Dont be so quick to beleive what generations before you have been "trained" to think. Surely your not that foolish?