Forget me ... not?

Suncatch22 = Regarding Bush, there probably are not enough votes to get an impeachment, but the issue has to remain in the mind of the voters, and Bush's crimes have to be debated in Congress. Only 21% of the American people now support his war in Iraq, and Republican Senators are now coming out against Bush's war. And ask your Senator, Robert Byrd, how he feels on this issue.

Regarding this post, it may about have run its course, but it sure is great matching wits with you. You ought to become a lawyer. I know you will say eeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, but think about it.

 

Say -- are you my father? He said the same thing ...

it ran its course because I can't communicate the ideas well enough.

Neither of these people care enough to care whether or not they remember me. They've both forgotten me, actually, except when they run into me or otherwise see me on the streets and are FORCED to remember me. So it's not like I want to force them into giving up something they want ... I don't want to force them to do anything.
But if they wanted to do it anyway, that would be cool by me, because it would be nice to start over with a clean slate ... ya know?

Wanted to know if anyone else could identify with this. It's an odd concept, probably too odd for the practical orientation on here.

And yeah, Cut, I know you were just illustrating your thoughts with real-life examples -- so was I. I just sometimes wondered if one or both of us was completely misunderstanding/misreading the other.

PS: Pittsburgh counts as West Virginia. Trust me.
Seriously -- there are NO FLAT PARTS in it (some of the streets are just staircases cut into hills), and the whole town is way too liberal to be part of Pennsylvania.
Also, almost everyone is blue-collar, drinks too much beer, and roots for the Steelers or college football. I won't even mention linguistics, much less Pink Floyd fandom and mullets. There is just too much in common to be a coincidence ... Pittsburgh is one of WV's kids, it just went to live with PA to have a bigger room and a better allowance.

 

Suncatch 22 - You have got to get away from Pittsburgh and WVA. Come out here and catch some sun. Today it is sunny and warm and the beaches are beckoning. The people out here in LaLaLand are more laid back than back where you are now. From lookng at your posts, you seem to have had a succession of bad relationships with men. Don't let that poison your feelings regarding us - there are good guys out there, who will respect you and with whom you can build a quality relationship - you just have not found them yet. Perhaps you should mix up your life a bit - join a new club or group, meet new friends.

I have raised daughters, through college, so I know a little about what makes them tick. One of my daughters went to a great school, Duke, and partied a lot, and was an athlete, where the coach wanted to break them down and then build them up. In my daughter's case, all he did was break her down. Her first semester, she got bad grades (just like I did in college), and her health was not good when she came home at Xmas.
But with a little gentle counseling from us, in the second semester she straightened herself out, quit the team, and joined the outdoor program at the school and went on wilderness outings. Met new friends, totally changed her outlook, and ended up graduating with honors (as I did).

So you may need to shake up your life a little to get yourself out of the rut you seem to be in.

 

I had a huge hangup about meeting new people because every time I've met new people, the same old things have happened ... and I feel if they happen again I might not be able to take it ...

I LOVE where I live, and I LOVE where I'm from. I would stay here in my lovely apartment or go back to the hills any day. (I'd almost rather go back to the hills, though, because at least then when I wondered, "Why am I alone?" the answer was self-evident and immediate: "Oh yeah ... Because there is no one else here."
In fact ... I can never remember actually wondering why I was alone, or being lonely, when I was there.
But ... if I ever did now ... there's always the hippie commune ...

No, seriously. I quit school (which was ruining my health, mentally and physically) and moved into a new place. It ought to have a huge positive impact on my health.

But the point is ... no matter how far I ran, I could NEVER forget.

 

Suncatch 22 - quit school? Too bad, I hope you go back and get your degree. Everyone has a crisis at some time in college, but most work through it. I told you about one daughter's crisis; her twin sister, who went to one of the best colleges in the country, was on the track team, and the Asst. ,who was married, had inappropriate sexual relationships with a number of the females on the team (but not my daughter so far as I know). The whole thing blew up and several girls left school, and the coach was suspended, and appealed and spent the next semester on campus stalking the team members, until he commited suicide. (Fortunately my daughter was on a semester in Europe when most of this happened.)

So you are not the only one. There really are guys out there - as I said before,pehaps you ought to make a concerted effort to seek out another type of guy - try a Chinese guy, for instance.

 

Is this a joke? I find this incredibly offensive, rude and ignorant.

 

I can't figure out what the topic is..

BUT..

I like your lil' banjo. And your pants too also are cool.

Carry on.

 

Hannah - Advising someone to date someone of another race and/or culture if that person wants a change is not "incredibly rude, ignorant or offensive".
My girlfriend is Chinese, and I know many Chinese guys, many of whom would be happy to date Suncatch. You don't know what you are talking about, and your post shows your ignorance.

 

Of course it plays a little with our Ego or our heart or whatever, but what the hell...you are young...so many men are stupid and so many are little better. hahahah

In my opinion, the first one is stupid or crule by nature... becasue even if i did not enjoy that chemistry he is talking about with a girl..i would not tell her that. ...So it is not wise to be hurt by a senseless person.

The second one and you were drunk, and most probably something in you did not like him. and maybe you were becoming not drunk any more.

The thing is: You might be a girl with very human nature, which you require real emotions before sex is done, and you are trying to force yourself to it, to prove what i do not know...You are clearly very attractive girl, and very intelligent, with real inners... the problem might be that you are Too human, and you are trying to reverse engineer your self.

Also You think too much sometimes.

 

Chinese and south eastern Asia women specially from chinese roots, are some of the most beatifull and sensual and satisfying and most gentle women on earth. Experience talks here.

They are simply supiror...

I LOVE them.

 

I am Chinese. You should think before you respond. All of you are stereotyping them. Are you speaking for Chinese men now? You're quite humourous.

Sure, there are some who would be willing but no offense, Suncatch, I also wouldn't advise going out hunting for a Chinese mate. The 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation American Asians may accept you, the others will ridicule you. People aren't stupid when they smell someone who's infatuated with their culture, or objectify them because of some exotized freakish notion (I'm not saying that you do, Cutted. Only that I am wary and so are others, though not all). Do take care, girl. All the best.

 

I just used "Chinese guy" as an example - to get Suncatch out of the rut she is in, dating tall, thin, sensitive, self-absorbed, artist-type white guys. Suncatch says she is small, and most (but not all) Asian guys are also on the small side, so that might be a good match. Here in so. Calif. there are many Asians, and many date other races. Almost 50% of Asian women here marry outside their race.

I know a number of Chinese young men born in China and Taiwan, and ABCs. I know their interests in women. I have been to China 13 times, to every region, and have many good friends in PRC. In fact, I helped get one guy out of the PRC after TienanMien, in which he was deeply involved. He is a citizen of Australia now, married with a kid.

Anything to say, Suncatch?

 

LMFAO!!! What the hell are you guys talking about? What do chinese guys have to do with Suncatch's situation?

 

Good for you. But it is still offensive (to me) to carry on stereotypes of asian men in an effort to help some white chick (I love you, Suncatch) out of a rut. I do see where you're coming from but I hope you see where I'm coming from too. It's pretty odd, mate. I'm also curious what makes you think asian men are not self-absorbed either, or any of those characteristics of Suncatch's "dating rut". I was born in Singapore and live in Vancouver and there are lots of mixed marriages also; my parents are white and asian. Please don't lump asians into a mass-group.

If anything, I think you should travel as much as you can, Suncatch. Read, and get out now that you say you've quit school for a bit? I too hope you will return to it, but perhaps all you need is some time to find yourself, as they say.

I don't recommend dating another culture just so you can get a quick fix, and presume to be worldly. Why - when there are other ways of doing it without playing with people's hearts or emotions, or treating them like a means to your end?

 

I just happen to know a lot of cool Asian guys and think that Suncatch might find some guy she can relate to. Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc. Makes no difference. She needs a change. She does not have to go around stalking them, but just be open to a relationship if the opportunity arises and she finds the guy interesting.

Hannah - have you had bad experiences with men so that my comment set you off so much?

 

Screw it... changed my mind. Not really my place to comment.

 

I think every woman has some bad experience mixed in with good. I've had bad experiences with people not appreciating different ethnicities, and honestly not even paying attention to a lot of 'asian american' issues. I agree that whoever may want to should feel free to date whomever they wish! However YOU labeling the characteristics of a handful of asians YOU may know and blanketing them as "Chinese" (or the same as if had been "Japanese", "Filipino" etc) in your earlier post is a little uncalled for. Those are characteristics that can be found in non-asians also. You're giving people the wrong impression, or one that is very narrow. I hope you see what I mean - not that I'm simply being "set off so much" and discredited entirely because of "bad experiences".

To be very honest, I do think an asian man would not make the effort to carry a long term relationship with a white woman - meaning marriage and the other serious business. There are too many complications. I have asian male friends who would consider a fling with a white woman and a little fucking for fun, but the dynamics are different from an asian woman dating a white male. Of course there are others who would consider a long term relationship or something of that nature but they are either rare or pretty "americanized" as 2nd, 3rd etc generation immigrants. This is what I've seen. And there certainly is a stigma wiht white people. We can continue this in another thread so as not to disrupt Suncatch's, I think. What say you?

 

Who says ABCs are not culturally American - as much as any other. Just because their faces are different than white guys, why treat them differently?
Guys are guys. No further comments until Suncatch weighs in.

 

You totally have no idea about what I'm talking about, do you? You're assuming everyone wants to be white-bred american or even considered "american".

 

I think Suncatch has moved on and so will I.