for those who would follow a "book".......

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Francisco, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. whatutalkinbout

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    I read this whole thread thinking that you all would eventually get back to the point. My fault, what was I thinking? It turned into a match about who knows more than who. If you think someone is talking b.s. why even acknowledge it? Yes, it is obvious the guy is crazy, and has too much time on his hands; but let it go, and lets get back to the point. It is hard either way to tell what he believes in being that he contradicts hisself in every other post he makes. I like this forum because its a meeting of the minds there is no need to call "assholes" assholes cause the've probably heard it all their lives :rolleyes: (okay, didn't have to say that but, you know im telling the truth).Keep it inteligent people.
     
  2. Francisco

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    good that you don't seek to hide the jezebelic, witchlike spirit that possesses you.......
    that shows a certain openness and lack of fear.

    most women try to hide the darkness of their heart and the fears and lusts
    that possess their mind, and never "see" their need for deliverance"-((((((

    however,

    "those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart;
    and they defile the person."

    "A good person out of the good treasure of the heart brings forth good things
    (Truth): and an evil person out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things
    (lies).

    But I say unto you, that every idle word that a person shall speak, they shall
    give account of them in the day of judgment.

    For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned."

    "woe unto them who call good, evil, and evil, good"!

    those who play such a losers only "game" are those who believe in "death":-(
    "christian" clones dying in a "yellow submarine" yet believing the depths of
    darkness hide what they are and gives them liberty to do what they want to
    do:-(((((( those "whose god is their belly for they mind earthly things":-((((((

    such are those who love this wicked evil world(babylon) and their own life in
    it. "braindirtyed" to the utmost, they reject Truth for the lie that is this world
    and it's "god" :-((((((

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope there would be those who would "see" how "poor and needy" they are,
    and in "seeing" take heed unto The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to:

    "Come out of her, MY people......."

    those who "see" will "come out" of this wicked world(babylon) and it's
    systems of religion, they will "set their affections on things above" as they
    follow The Messiah on "The Way to The Truth of The Life".

    yes, it takes a Miracle....... yet Miracles do happen!

    and "the world, those of this world, will hate them, just as the world hated
    The Messiah", and sadness for such lost souls, at times will be their portion,
    yet "oh, the joy that comes in the mourning(morning)"!

    and finally, freed from their fleshly bodies, they will hear the blessed words:

    "Welcome Home, good and faithful servant".......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  3. Cryptoman

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    This can only continue if someone responds...Think about it before you fuel the fire.
     
  4. Francisco

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    The Truth will always continue....... and the fire has already been fueled and
    awaits those who have not "received a love The Truth":-((((((

    trouble is you can not "think" Truth, Truth must be received.......period.......

    so many "braindirtyed":-(((((( so many lost souls held captive by "education",
    "religion" and other systematic processes of enslavement that cause them to
    but serve "time" in the prison that is this world:-((((((

    sad that so many bear the weight of the "chain" that is "strong delusion", the
    primary link of which is "money":-(((((( money is drug #1 in "the god of this
    world's" addictive schemes. schemes whose sole purpose is to destroy "The
    Creation of The ONLY TRUE GOD":-((((((

    and "The Creator, HE will destroy those who destroy HIS Creation"!

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that there would be those who would "receive a love of The Truth"
    and take heed unto The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to:

    "Come out of her, MY people......."

    hope for those who would "come out" of this wicked, evil world(babylon)
    and cease serving it's "god" and remove themselves for his systems of
    destruction, especially his religious systems.

    simplicity is a gift that, as Truth, needs be received.......

    may there be those who would receive.......

    for they will "experience the simplicity that is in The Messiah".......

    simply, they will experience "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  5. Dizzy Man

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    Francisco,

    You seem to feel very strongly that Christianity is somehow "wrong", and you have a lot to say about it. Yet you're not actually stating any real reason (at least not one that I was able to pick up on).

    I am interested to know your point of view. Could you please explain your views in one simple sentence, like: "Christianity is bad because..."?
     
  6. Francisco

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    one sentence? and i respond concerning the systems of religion and not
    individuals who neither teach nor seek to defend the lie that calls itself
    "christianity".......

    ""christianity" is bad because" they are the pagan harlot daughters of
    "catholicism" and are Anti-Messiah.......period.......

    to answer your post more fully, i have posted to another thread just to bring it to the front once again. thread title is "jesus, the mark of christianity"

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  7. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    Sadly, you do not speak it
     
  8. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    Truth needs be lived, Truth is Alive, yet you continue to bear witness
    against The Truth for your desires are earthly, sensual, devilish.......

    the only "truth" a woe-man possessed by a jezebelic witchlike spirit knows is
    that which is temporal, not "truth" but shadows and their is no life in the
    shadows.......

    may you come to The Light seeking deliverance from the spirit that possesses
    you....... when delivered you will then know what it is to be Loved.......and
    you will desire above all else,

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    woe-man to woman.......

    Miracles are Real!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  9. "†"»AMBER«

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    You better hope GOD shows you a miracle and gives you some USEFull knowledge
     
  10. Francisco

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    always hoping for a Miracle and every breath can bear witness to The Miracle that is The Life.......

    "useful knowledge" as this world knows it, is but "knowledge falsely so-called",
    kinda like "the wisdom of this world which is but foolishness to The ONLY TRUE
    GOD".......

    may you "experience The Messiah and The Power that resurrected Him".......

    such a miraculous "experience" genders The Life.......

    such "experience" causes one to desire above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

    and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    for Miracles happen!

    may you receive a Miracle.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  11. FeelinGroovy

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    It sounds as if Fransisco is not content and may be motivated and driven in search of something... something that maybe christians have found... He may be on a journey that many of us were once on. At the least he is curious and seeking others opinions and comments. I think we should not judge him and instead accept him, love him, and pray for his righteous enlightenment.


    My beliefs do not come from a book, they come from a feeling called a faith that was given to me by the holy spirit. It endures all odds and distractions yet continues to ask questions and form new impressions only with the hope of becoming ever closer to the spiritual truth.
     
  12. Francisco

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    ah, the journey, a spiritual journey, the wonder filled walk upward beyond
    the clouds, where blue seems rather blah and stars are alive.......

    "christianity" is naught but earthly fashion, grounded to the dirt and holding
    it's captives in the chains of "strong delusion" that is "religion":-((((((

    as is said, "been there, done that", and been delivered....... HalleluYah!

    yet the "book", testimonies of Faith, an eternal place, unspeakable riches,
    The Messiah, He Who revealed "The Way to The Truth of The Life", and
    Our Father, The Creator of ALL things, HE WHO gave us breath(spirit) that
    we might learn of HIM and receive of HIM all that we as Children need.......

    receive, receive, receive of ME, MY Children, HE cries!

    and the children? where have all the children gone, long time passing?

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that the wayward children, hope that they will return unto Our Father!

    Miracles are Real! Forever.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  13. FeelinGroovy

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    Hmm... That sounds like a lyric to a Kingston Trio song

    "...Where have all the young men gone? Long time passing. Where have all the young men gone? Long time ago.
    Where have all the young men gone? Gone to soldiers ev'ry one. When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?" -Kingston Trio

    To tell you the truth, I can't tell whether Francisco is agreeing with me or not or what???
     
  14. Epiphany

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    The only devilish one here is you.
     
  15. Francisco

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    perceptive....... and yes "when will they ever learn"???????

    i am hoping that your "Faith" is grounded in "experience" and not just
    "feeling".......i mean i can "feel" a snake in a hole and not know what
    kind it is till i "see(experience)" it.......quite a danger there.......

    and the pagan religion that calls itself "christianity"? they talk, they hear,
    sensual they are, yet most "experience" only "emotion":-((((((

    of course their "god" gave them that car, that house, that money,,,etc,,,

    their "god" made them "consumers", those who are destroying Creation:-((((((

    their "god" gave them the "win" over that other team who prayed to their
    "god" for the "win":-((((((

    their "god" was with them as they slaughtered more of the enemy and so
    their "god" gave them the "victory":-((((((

    and all that, and more, sure makes them "feel good":-((((((

    now why should i "agree with you"?

    should we agree just to make each other "feel good"?

    there is only ONE that i desire to agree with, HE WHO has The Power to
    mold many into One! True Oneness, Forever, not just a temporal union.......

    That ONE is The ONLY TRUE GOD, Father of ALL.......

    if you desire the same, then we are in agreement, we are "one".......

    why be "one" with a temporal someone?

    hope is there will be those who "see" how "poor and in need" they are, and
    who, as The Messiah did, would also desire above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    those with such a desire will have their portion in The Family of One.......

    and simply, such desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

    Real Life! and that which is Real is Forever.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  16. FeelinGroovy

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    yes, my experiences have been fulfilling and true. I've never had a prayer go unanswered! I have been generuosly rewarded in turn for my genererous and selfless acts. I have been punished for my sins. I have asked for visions and have recieved them. It is of no question to me of the presence of God and my Lord. Through meditation and prayer my holy spirit is strengthened and I have intimate connections with my Lord.


    Maybe you do not have these things, and that is ok! But for me it is a huge presence in my life. It has taken all my life to reach the point where I am in my spirituality/religion. It would be in vain to try to force these beliefs onto someone else. I peacefully accept everyone for their beliefs and do not try to sway their beliefs or opinions, I just hold personal testament to mine if I am asked.

    If you want irony, something that many find ironic, but is not an issue for me, is that I am a PhD scientist (microbiologist), and do believe in evolution to an extent. Some people have a very hard time grasping that dichotomy and think that it is a big trying issue among Christian scientists, but for many it really is not.
     
  17. Francisco

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    to me, one who has "seen", and is yet being "set free" from the educational
    "braindirtying" processes acquired while caught up in the throes of ignorance,
    for me "education", as known today, is but a tool used of "the god of this
    world" in his destructive purposes.......

    simplicity, oh, what a blessing simplicity is! yet simplicity is being overcome
    by the intellect, that portion of mankind used to create imagined systems
    of destruction that further the causes of "the god of this world", "d"evil.......

    Creation is being destroyed, and not by those who believe in evolution, but
    by those who blindly accept "educational" processes that masquerade as
    "progress":-((((((

    and "progress" it is, this world and those who love this world and their own
    life in it, are progressing farther and farther away from "The Way to The
    Truth of The Life", and participating more and more in the destruction of
    The Creation that is of The Giver of Life:-((((((

    and "The Creator will destroy them who destroy HIS Creation".......

    as to believing? i believe i am "poor and needy" and as The Messiah did,
    so i also desire above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

    http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90081

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  18. FeelinGroovy

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    I'm sorry Francisco, but your poetic license is difficult for me to follow.
     
  19. Francisco

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    understandable, yet experience at times can be revealing....... check it out again a year or two down The Way.......

    if there is a year or two that is.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
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