For or against smoking bans in public places? why?

Excuse me! ?
What have I said now...?

 

After reading all this I still conclude that in a public place that is enclosed. You light up a smoke and that stinking nasty cloud of smoke rolls my directions I have the right to ask you nicely to not do so. If you continue then I have the right to place a barrel at the base of your skull and pull the trigger, then I can put it out for you.

I have had to deal with too many asshole who walk into the area you are at and others are too that are not smoking and they light up this damn smoke sucking on its ass blowing shit out of thier mouth all over everyone and wonder why you get offended. I mean let me barf all over then over and over, its my body I should be allowed.

Smokers are the most inconsiderate bunch, they just light up not asking if its okay to smoke in your new car, new house, around those with breathing problems and such. My dads a smoker, I love him and all but talk about inconsiderate to those who dont smoke.

 

I take it you are in favour of the smoking Ban then?

 

There's nothing worse than when you are walking down the street, and enjoying the fresh clean air on a winter day, and someone sparks up a cigarette in front of you. It is totally selfish, and should be banned on the streets, where I might there are children walking. In the pub it should be tolerated.

 

No I am more freedom of choice, risk and self goverment. You make a choice, if those choices offend others then you stand the risk of thier choices offending you.

 

So there should not be any public health provisions and the money should be redirected elswhere?

 

I'm in favour of letting the decision about banning smoking or not to the owners of public places like pubs, restaurants, clubs, concert venues, etc.. Especially for coffeeshops it's just ridiculous to just forbid it :toetap05:

 

I don't think so. What I have noticed is that the obituaries are full of people in their 60's. It's scary. My own grandparents only lived to their mid-70's...

 

Neanderthal 20 (Homo neanderthalensis supposedly was a separate species from modern humans but were members of the genus Homo, to which humans belong.)

Upper Paleolithic 33At age 15: 39 (to age 54)

Neolithic 20

Bronze Age 18

Classical Greece 20-30

Classical Rome 20-30

Pre-Columbian North America 25-35

Medieval Britain 20-30

Early 20th Century 30-40

Current world average 66.12 (2008 est.)

 

I've never smoked cigs ever , but banning smoking outside of food areas is stupid.
Many of these "smoking" deaths were probably asbestos or sthg similar anyway.

Its amazing how many pubs and bars have turned from vibrant fun places to dull pits half filled with old people , since the smoking ban.

 

Generally though, people do live to be a lot older now than they did before.

 

If the "place" in question is truly "public" it would be free for anyone to do anything that wasn't a violation of any civil or any other type of law.

So I guess it boils down to this


There isn't a whole lot of "public" places anymore, Take a minute to think about the places you consider "public".

 

They (doctors) can tell the difference.

 

actually, usually they can't.

it's really hard to determine the vector by which a certain disease arises, epidemiology is very much a statistics game.

 

Show me some evidence.

 

I am glad they banned smoking in public places. I hate cigs

 

That might be what it seems like because there are a higher number of people in that age, then there ever was before in all of history of human existence. What I'm saying is, right now there is a higher number of elderly people then there ever was in the entire world. Infant morbidility rates are down, health care is up, access to fresh drinking water is up, etc.

People don't have 13 kids just so half of them live after a wave of polio sweeps through the community and people don't die of TB or pneumonia as they would often have in the past.

Ask any Sociologist, Anthropologist, any care-giver working in an elderly home, any medical doctor - People are living much longer than they would have a century ago.

 

UmyeaNo. Waitresses and even regular patrons who never smoked a day in their life are now dead from lung cancer caused by the inhalation of second-hand cigarette smoke they inhaled when they went into work or ate at their favourite restaurant.

Don't be a truck of cement. People die from second-hand smoke.

 

Yep.Don't be a truck of cement.
Do some research on asbestos ,car fumes , toxic chemicals we're routinely exposed to , even radiation from old monitors etc.
I think u'll change your mind... drastically!
The info I had was from doctors and actuaries BTW

U know how deadly that stuff is? when it was all treated as harmless.
But hey- blame it on 2nd hand cig smoke...how convenient.

Asbestos claims could've bankrupted the whole insurance system.
Oh hang on America's insurance system is bankrupt anyway...

 

Im telling ya let people get back to a system of self police and govern and soon only the quick or polite will live. Im violent for sure but damn I am sick of laws protecting people from themselves. Smoking is a risk so why not let it be a real risk, true life or death without the whole long term illness issue?
The idea of getting killed by another person who faces me bothers me far less than getting killed slowly and painfully from shit I was forced to be around and not allowed to protect myself from.