first time trying physchedelic tips

Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms' started by lucidhigh, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    True, but in the case of LSD a distinction needs to be made between physiological risk/harm and emotional/psychological risk/harm.
    Physiologically LSD-25 is just about the safest substance consumed by humans. Problem is most people, users and non-users, make the erroneous assumption that any substance that can produce such drastic and fantastic alterations of perception must being killing brain cells or some type of physical harm.
    After 69 years of use and study (LSD is the most researched psychedelic) there is still not a shred of evidence that it causes any physical harm whatsoever in the amounts normally consumed. Even the documented overdoses were resolved with no lasting physical harm. The only documented death attributed to LSD was a person who consumed over 325 milligrams of crystal, and the actual cause of death was never completely confirmed to be the result of LSD ingestion, just that the person had consumed a massive amount.

    Psychologically and emotionally there are soooo many different dynamics at work and they are different for every person, that it is inevitable that for some individuals LSD will have a detrimental effect.

    EDIT: I am a little remiss, HPPD is about the only lasting negative side effect from psychedelic use, but the exact nature and cause of the syndrome still hasn't been determined, just that there is a distinct relationship between HPPD and psychedelic use.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    Psilocybin Mushrooms are also incredibly physically safe, with thousands of years of human usage.
     
  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    True, is there even an established LD-50 for psilocibyn?
     
  4. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    From Wikipedia, LD-50 for psilocybin=
    285 mg/kg (mouse, i.v.)
    280 mg/kg (rat, i.v.)
    12.5 mg/kg (rabbit, i.v.)
     
  5. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    I think it's 280 mg/kg for I.V. psilocybin in rats.

    Someone on shroomery extrapolated that to a hypotetical oral dose of psilocybin mushrooms in humans came up with that of being the equivalent of about 1680 grams or something of mushrooms. It's certainly a dose that's larger than anyone could consume in a sitting, actually gets me slightly nauseous just talking about it.
     
  6. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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  7. ccc DexheaD ccc

    ccc DexheaD ccc Member

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    im no mushroom expert,ive only done em a hand full of times,but i've only dosed less than 5 grams one time,and that was 3 g.but i think i was more prepared for shrooms than most noobs because of how hard and how often i tripped on ccc's. i just was expecting more from shrooms than i'd get from dex. pretty much all of my 1st time use of the various substances ive played with has been by myself. i'd say for a first timer who's never messed with trippy shit,2.5 grams'd probably mess you up,but you really shouldnt worry about getting lost in the woods on em lol you'll know where your going.to be on the safe side you prob should let your first experience be at someones house in a relaxed setting,just so you'll know what their actually going to do to you before you get out in the woods rather than just speculate.outdoor experiences are so much better than bein inside i'll agree,but i promise if you take a good amount in a good setting,you will DEFINITLY try em again,so why not save your woodland adventure untill you get past your first trip.a million people on here can say they tried doin this or that and it was great,but you could be that 1 in a million that dont go so great. all im sayin is get some first hand experience on what they'll do to YOU in a chill safe place,then start experimenting with different places to trip and different activities to do while tripping
     
  8. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    There are middle-grounds for these things too: the choices aren't "being lost in the woods" vs. "someone's apartment." Have you considered renting a cabin?

    My state has a lot of public-use cabins distributed throughout our state park and recreation areas. The first time I tripped acid, I rented a state cabin, spent one night, dropped the next morning and spent another night.

    I gave myself a full weekend for my first trip, so I didn't have to worry about having to be down enough to walk home, drive home, or ride a bus or whatever. The cabin was a safe home-base, but a totally private setting nonetheless. And it was in a beautiful wooded area (pics of that day are actually on my profile), so if we wanted we could leave the cabin and walk around.

    It was a great combo of safe/secure WITH beautiful nature.

    You can always find middle-way's like that.
     
  9. lucidhigh

    lucidhigh Member

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    I live next to an abandoned nursery that is heavily wooded which gives me the nature aspect as well as the ability to go back to my house for safety, only thing is my friend will only do it with a spotter there which i don't want what so ever.
     
  10. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    You could sit your friends trip, and once he/she's comfortable you could drop together? I dunno.. just go for it man, worst that can happen is you have a shitty few hours.
     
  11. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    That sounds like a pretty smart plan.
     
  12. lucidhigh

    lucidhigh Member

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    Yeah, thats what i'm thinking, just walk outside a little bit, and then go into my room and stare at some lava lamps for a while( if they ever get here from amazon
     
  13. lucidhigh

    lucidhigh Member

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    I'll just have to see what happens when it happens.
     
  14. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    you can get anything on amazon haha. i just bought a record player on there.
     
  15. lucidhigh

    lucidhigh Member

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    yeah i just bought a couple lava lamps and blacklight posters
     
  16. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    I've always wanted to trip w/ lava lamps or blacklight posters.

    Tripping with one candle is pretty cool.
     
  17. Black_Lotus

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    My previous LSA experience was a little dull, but one thing that was cool was lighting a candle. The flicker of the light synced with the music playing, and all the lighting was a blacklight and candle making a calm blue/violet to orange lighting. I'm hoping to have a better LSD experience soon with the blacklight and candle as it appears shrooms are still out of town ;(

    Never had an experience with a lava lamp though

    I really want to try the candle again though, the smell creates a cozy environment as well as a calm lighting that helps relaxing into the trip. My recent LSA trip however didn't get strong enough to really experience much though, so I still feel like I need to try this again
     
  18. guerillabedlam

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    You find Morning Glories a more worthwhile trip than HBWR?
     
  19. eatlysergicacid

    eatlysergicacid Creep in a T-Shirt

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    This is as good of an explanation of a shroom trip as I could think of. Very accurate.
     
  20. Black_Lotus

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    Can't yet say, Cause I did have a pretty full stomach, took medication before my trip, so I'm gonna try again. Supposedly HBWR seeds are in a ratio of 1 seed = roughly 25ugs of Acid, so I'm going to try them again, and if that statement were accurate, it'd be wonderful. But so far, yes my heavenly blues were way stronger, a majority seem to take the side of the HBWR,

    I only got to experience small effects, so I'm certain it was because I was on a full stomach, but I least had a very pleasant body high that led to a good sleep, like a heavy sedation
     
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