Well what about all the war crimes Saddam Husseins' brutal regime committed and continued to commit such as the execution and torturing to death of political dissidents and critics of the Saddam regime. How many Iraqis starved to death and died of disease because Saddam squandered money from the oil for food programme on building vast luxury palaces for himself and on his armed forces? What about Saddams' attempted assasination of George Bush senior? What about execution of the journalist arrested by Saddam in 1990 just before the first Gulf War on a trumped up charge of entering the country illegally and the killed after the prime minister pleaded for his return, with Saddam mocking; "they asked for him back so we sent him home in a box." The deaths in such a war were regretable, but none of us supportters of regime change advocated atrocities against the Iraqi people. As Lieutenant Colonel Tim Colins said in his speech just before the war - "we go to liberate not to conquer." What about all the deaths caused by the terrorists in Iraq? I am sure a large percentage of that 100,000 total were caused by them. If not directly then indirectly by using densely built up areas as bases from which to fight shoot outs with coalition troops, thus putting Iraqi civilians at risk of death in crossfire. How can overthrowing such a barbaric and evil regime be considered wrong even if it results in short term suffering. To leave such an evil and sadistic regime in place would have led to far more deaths in the long run! Saddam and his regime were mass murdering, sadistic tyrants who had no respect for human life and no compassion whatsoever.
Saddam Hussein was a fuckwit bastard shithead and responsible for the deaths/murders of 200.000 people over a period of twenty years. 'Our' forces are responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 in er...how long? He was also partly responsible for 1.5 million deaths during the Iran/Iraq war......and funded and armed by who......????? You really are a silly wanker.
Is it just me who is getting the impression that Treehouse seems to think everyone on this site is pro-Saddam?
He was also partly responsible for 1.5 million deaths during the Iran/Iraq war......and funded and armed by who......????? [/QUOTE] Ermm....by Costa Rica?! (only joking. I know the real answer to that)
Well if he was armed and funded by the west then that makes it more of the wests responsiblity to sort him out and remove him! I think that removing Saddam was the right thing to do, the only thing the west are guilty of is of ever trusting him. But that does not make removing him when they did wrong in itself.
Just admit your a sick twat who gets a hard on watching war on telly from the comfort of your living room.
No you are a sick twat. Removing murderous dictators who are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths of their own people like Saddam was is the right thing to do! Should we in the west just allow evil, tyrants to go on terrorising their own people, torturing, imprisoning and executing them or should we remove them. And if anyone is responsible for violence in Iraq now, it is Al Qaeda and their terrorist allies who refuse to halt their violence! Why don't you ever speak out against the Islamic terrorists for causing massive death and destruction in Iraq?
I despise Islamic fundamentalism......despise your lot for creating them also. Learn your fucking history.
My lot didn't create Islamic fundamentalism, I am a communist, but from the old school of communism which was against appeasement of tyrannical dictators. And it is too easy to blame the West for creating Al Qaeda. Most of the funding for Al Qaeda came from Osama Bin Ladens' vast fortune he had from the profits of his family's construction business. He is and was a multi-billionaire. By the way I can remember when he was fighting Russian forces in Afghanistan then most of the left supported the Mujihaden and heralded them as freedom fighters. They were wrong then and they are wrong now to say we should have taken no action against Saddam.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! ...... not to mention the USA, who were kinda funding and training them.
So does that mean the USA cannot fight back against them when they kill 3,000 Americans in terrorist attacks? Do past crimes deny you the right to put things right? Also Islamic fundamentalist terrorism would have arisen even if the USA had not had anything to do with the Mujihaden, because Islamic fundamentalism arose in response to the war in the Middle East between Israel and the PLO from 1967 onwards.
Pay attention. You were arguing that the Mujahadeen were the left's baby. I was demonstrating that they were not.
So does this mean you admit that the west screwed up then? And if so, do you rule out the possibility they have screwed up again (i.e. with the Iraq invasion)?
I think Treehouse should get his own 'ask treehouse' thread/forum where we can ask his opinions on all kinds of subjects from the plight of the Native American, foot and mouth disease, female circumcision, AIDS,the death penalty and living in trees. We could all end up being very well educated by the wealth of his knowledge
Oh man, yeah! Then all the people who like him/think like him could hang out there together and have a big party! Well ok, a small party maybe. Well ok, I guess he'd get kinda lonely......
