Family is gone: Just bugging out

I've taken 50mg all at once, one time, a long time ago, lets just say i have no memory of that trip... But that actually sounds like a good idea, i don't have a scale, but i'm going to assume the baggie has 25mg in it like i've been told, and just take a quarter of it, wait a bit, take another quarter, and so on...

If i ever touch this drug again that is, i'm more interested in trying some other psychedelics..


But you guys may be right about it not being entirely weighed out properly... But that doesn't really make sense, becuase i don't actually know the guy i got it from on a personal level, we've talked a bit and only met twice or so, so if anything you'd think he'd give me less instead of more? What dealer gives a guy he barely knows more than he paid for? Except this guy isn't an actual dealer.

 

He probably doesn't own a milligram scale, and eyeballed it out and you ended up with a little more than 25mg..

I don't think he intentionally gave you more.. he most likely divided it up by eye, and his guesstimate of 25mg was probably more than an actual 25mg..

You could have easily taken closer to 35-40mg.

 

That is a possibility, but i don't know because the only reason he gave me pre-measured doses was because i didn't have a scale. He was just going to give me one bag with about 200mg in it, and he asked me if i had a scale, i told him i didn't so he said he could weigh it for me and put it into doses.

My first thought was that he was going to rip me off because he knew i didn't have a scale, but he seemed like a pretty nice trust worthy guy that seemed concerned for my saftey with it. And once i tried it, i knew he didn't give me less than i was told.

So i really think he did use a scale, but still who knows.. maybe something happened and he did mess up.

I mentioned this earlier about the chemical changing colors and being degraded... I said i thought that may have caused some toxic effect but everyone seemed to turn that idea down, but what if it actually makes it more potent? Sounds like a weird theory, but you never know...

 

Could have just been a crappy scale.

A lot of weed-grade scales show mg or even tenths of a mg, but it would be off by like a tenth of a g, sometimes. You have to use various tricks to get them to read right, and it still isn't really accurate to a safe level for anything but pot or rough evaluation of larger amounts. They basically display mg on a gram accurate scale, to look fancy.

 

Wow, I don't know you but so glad that you came thru. I have had bad trips but what you experienced was really bad. I'm not one to tell anyone what to do, we all have to travel our own paths, but (AND EVERYBODY HAS A BIG BUT) I quit drugs and alcohol completely....I was making really bad decisions and screwing myself up royal. Now it's been 6 months and I'm better - not perfect - but better. I have no desire to return to the turmoil that was my life before. I'm not saying never again - just not now. So good luck. I bet your gf's happy as shit to still have you around!

 

That's very possible, i barely even know the guy so i have no clue what kind of scale he would be using. I for some reason just assumed they would all be correctly weighed..

Maybe, the same as always. I didn't tell her about this, and there's no way in hell i ever would lol.

I usually tell her everything, even though she dislikes drugs and wished i didn't do them, i still tell her i do. The first time i ever tried 4-aco-dmt i told her the day i got it and before i tripped, she gets mad, but i feel guilty like i'm hiding something if i don't tell her haha...

But this, i dunno about this... I don't think there would be any real purpose behind telling her, all it would do is cause unneeded worries for her.

 

also....it's not instant magic mushrooms.

it's 4-acetoxy-dimethyltryptamine

 

the stuff you got could have been the HCl salt. fumarate is more common i think, but the HCl is more potent.

25 mg of HCl roughly equals 34 mg of fumarate (a decently sized dose).
if this particular "25 mg" was actually more like 30 mg...then that would be over 40 mg of the fumarate - a hefty dose for sure

and just so you know..in your quest for new psychedelics...the only one i have found to be "better" than 4aces is LSD. don't bother with 2cx

if 4aces makes you nervous of the effects it could have on your body, you don't need 2cx. trust me

 

.....You don't like 2cb?

I see your point, at least with what I know of the others, as far as him using them. But 2cb is basically MDMA with happy psychedelic-ness and visuals blended in.

 

wiki says.. you get what Im saying. people assume they are the same ,. you are correct they are not. however when someone enters the approach with that in mind. This may not consume as mushrooms just because it says Structurally similar to the acetylated form of the psychedelic mushroom alkaloid psilocin..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVPq-_t-ANw"]Tina Turner - We Don't Need Another Hero - YouTube

 

This makes a lot of sense actually because i always take 25mg, and i always trip soo hard... which always confused me because 25mg isn't really all that much. Like you said, the doses are probably a little more than 25mg, plus they're more potent... it could explain a lot

I remember the time i took two doses, 50mg worth... which could have been 60-70mg worth if that was weighed wrong too, plus if it was the HCl stuff that could make it up to as strong as 70-80mg... no wonder i blacked out. I really don't remember a single thing from that trip, i remember it starting to kick in, then the next thing i knew it was over, many hours later lol