I agree with Orison here You are always stressed, on edge, or complaining about something. I mean no offense that's just an observation. This type of mentality is NOT going to go well with psychedelics... What did you think was going to happen? The compound was trying to teach you some things you just were not trying to hear... or were not ready to hear. Sounds to me like there is a lot to be learned here.. This is definitely a bad trip though. The compound didn't "go bad" and cause you to have a bad trip... It really doesn't work like that.. There's nothing in the compound itself that gives people bad trips.. They occur as a result of the persons setting and mindset... This is standard knowledge when it comes to psychedelics.. at least it certainly SHOULD be for anyone who is using these drugs.
I actually completely agree with roorshack on this. On a personal level, I think i have experienced the same or similar feelings (aside from the vomiting) I dosed LSD about twice a week for awhile. Then I quit after going through a wild depression, and when I was happy I decided I wanted to try it again, but I felt it was wrong, or dumb, and I had an entire trip of fear of a trip or something like that. I just lasted on my bed, and my couch regretting the entire experience. It was awful and I never want to return. But I long term decided that, it's not if you use drugs that's the problem, it's how you use them. Psychedelics can be the gateway to your creative mind. But when you use it soon enough again out of selfish desire, it leads to a different use of the experience. This is when it becomes a drug. And that's when I lose it,mans have bad experiences. Idk, that's how it works for me My point is, just know that you don't have to give up drugs your whole life if youd rather experience it on rare occasions. It's really your mind set that caused this bad experience
I agree that is was a bad trip, but somebody mentioned earlier that it was because of the mindset i was in. I didn't feel guilt whatsoever about tripping, i was looking forward and was excited about it. I was completely fine and in a good mood, just got off work, was relaxing at home, and decided to trip. But the second it kicked in i just felt different, it was unlike any trip i've ever had before, and then it started to worry me a bit so stuff just went downhill from there... everyone's saying "oh it's just a bad trip, no big deal, it was just in your head, blah blah blah" you guys weren't there. Yes, it was a bad trip, but it wasn't just the tripping. I opened my eyes and my vision was completely gone like i mentioned in the post. I couldn't see a single thing. I didn't take a very large dose, i took the same amount i always take and i've never had hallucinations intense enough to take away my entire vision... I lost my vision around the same time my body locked up and i started choking on vomit, I don't know how long it was gone for since my eyes were shut for the majority of the time, but i would keep opening them every so often to see if i could see again, and it took a very long time for it to come back, and even then it was faint. It wasn't even like a hallucination, i just simply couldn't see anything. Which kind of makes me think it wasn't just a bad trip that was 'all in my head' obviously it was a bad trip, but i think there's more to it than that. It's easy to judge and say shit when it's not you that went through this. And for the people saying i can get over it and i don't need to quit drugs forever, i didn't mean to imply that i'm quitting drugs forever, that wasn't my intention at all. I simply said i should not do 4-aco-dmt anymore, nor should i do any other psycadelics for a long while. And i'm just cutting back and laying off the weed for a bit. It's not a bad drug, i've had many many good experiences with it. This is just one rare event, which could happen with any psychedelic.
Mindset and psyche are two different things. Maybe it was your very psyche that does not integrate well with psychedelics and in particular the effect of boundary dissolution. Sure, you've tripped before and had fun, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I'm unfamiliar with 4-aco-DMT.. does this compound produce nausea? Cause I know puking on psychedelics can be very disturbing, especially when you're tripping hard.. That could have easily been where the whole paranoia of dying and shit came from, just the awful and unpleasant experience of being sick to ones stomach while tripping face.
A lot of people say it doesn't cause nausea, or it causes next to none. And I usually feel fine on it, unless I'm moving around a lot then I feel a tad nasious, and I feel sluggish while it first starts to kick in as well. Unless I smoke a little weed beforehand then it's completely fine, so I think the nausea is very mild compared to most psycadelics, but there still is some, but I've never had the urge to puke on it up until this trip
i'm not very experienced with psychedelics, but from what i can tell, taking something like this just because you want to get fucked up is probably not a great idea.
Aren't drugs fun. Christ listen to yourself, toss the shit and quit. Whats more important, another bad trip or the lady thats sticking by you while you fuck up.
This is true, but i didn't take it to get fucked up. I did infact want to get really high, but who doesn't when taking drugs? But that wasn't the sole purpose behind taking it, i just wanted to chill and have a peaceful night outside and trip, since i rarely get to do that. They can be fun. But i already said many times that i was done with this stuff.
You underestimate the powers of the mind. Especially a mind on Psychadelics. You never lost your vision, you simply couldn't see.
Did you read the thread? The guy had one bad experience with drugs. He smokes weed sometimes and has tripped, what 8 times? He's hardly an addict. You're being way overly harsh. What kind of hippe calls someone a stupid addict and tells them they wont make it another year smoking bud and tripping moderately?? Either you have no idea what an addict is or your just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole.
The wise musings of a 19 year old. Yes I'm being an ass but only because I don't want to see some YOUNG KID get in over his head.
^ in all fairness, OP is exhibiting signs of an addict. To what extent and whether or not its a functioning addiction is another story.
should of just ate some acid man, sounds like a crazy adventure though for sure! I cant really relate because iv never really had that bad of a trip, I have puked though smoked a half cashed bowl of deems, chocking on the smoke...that was nasty anyway assuming you trip again, try to be more prepared either with some buddys or by yourself, create a dank ass playlist, get candy, weed, juice other munchies. If your not in the right mind set then your just not in the right mind set, dont dose just cause its the only day you can do it, if your not feeling it...well your just not ready for it,dont force yourself a journey
I'm going to interject, about sounding like an addict..... No, but he has similar thought processes, simalar levels of ignorance and respect. You can fuck yourself up on ANY drug if you do it wrong, as he's shown here is this thread.
A person can have an addictive personality without being addicted to a particular addictive substance. I don't know if that's the case here or not. I think the op just sounds young. I don't really get the appeal of research chemicals but I think with any psychedelic you have to have a healthy amount of respect for it. It sounds like the op underestimated the power of the drug.
How is saying drugs can be fun the words of an addict? I'm sure you've enjoyed many drugs in your days as well. I've tripped a handful of times, that's it. If anything i'm a stoner, not an addict, there is a difference. But i guess technically i could be considered an "addict" to weed since i smoke daily, but... it's just not the same... That's good advice. I mainly did only trip because i had the chance to trip outside which i rarely get to do, so it was forced in a way... but what i don't get is that i've done this before, pretty much any chance i get to trip outside i force it, yet this is the only time something went wrong, maybe there was something else as well. I don't like to admit it, but yes, this. I do have a very addictive personality, once i do something i enjoy i want to do it all the time and i crave it. But i'm not necessarily addicted to any drug itself... Like, usually when i trip i just want to trip again and again for the next few days because it was so amazing... (excluding this time) but i don't actually trip day after day, i just crave to, but after a few days it slowly fades away and i have no real urges to do so... And with weed, i keep saying i'll take a break, but you have noo idea how badly i want to get baked right now. Everything makes me want to get high, i just ordered pizza and wings and that makes me want to get stoned. I'm about to watch a movie, that makes me want to get stoned. I'm here on these forums, that makes me want to get stoned. Everything makes me want to get high... But once i do stop for a few days, these urges do go away... This is why i would never want to touch any actual addictive drugs