Everything doesn't make any sense.

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  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's not the same but often coincides with eachother so perhaps that is why righting oneself is often perceived as finding/having a good balance?
     
  2. thedope

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    Righting oneself is the impulse to good. Balance is essential, for every action there is an equal and complimentary action.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    So balancing yourself is..?
     
  4. Anaximenes

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    And at beyond good and evil? For Hegel there was no balance. To him the equilibrium of distributed heat was only there because we cannot measure the temperature at any exact place in space.:mickey:
     
  5. thedope

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    Beyond good and evil is what is the same and what is different. What is the same is the same and what is different is different and not the same.
    I think more he perhaps temporarily inclined or certainly uncertain?
     
  6. thedope

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    Not needed. You have innate balance. Our protections extend natural to those things we identify as our own. Confusion or dis equalibrium is caused by the inconsistent proportions we claim, i. e. good and evil.
     
  7. Anaximenes

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    You're thinking about Gibbs Law of free energy at which all of a sudden there was no energy to occur because there was no difference in the object being there.
     
  8. tikoo

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    our modern little minds have been trained by realism . realism
    is passionate about parts , dividing , accounting , numerated
    definitions - and it's of half-a-mind doing it . eventually , it will
    create vast meaning with its partially sensible metaphors . dividing
    the universe , you see , is what's really eternal .
     
  9. thedope

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    Thank you for that.
    We legitimately exist, not increasing the total entropy of the universe. Having and being are the same.

    Bottom line as well as the top, not guilty.
     
  10. thedope

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    perpetual motion machines of the second kind are impossible

    diversity is not a divisive expression

    each voice singing sweetly a whole/holy song
     
  11. Monkey Boy

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    Being able to let go is a beautiful thing. It can be painful, but I've never been closer to truth than after a loss. Life goes on.
     
  12. Anaximenes

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    But it makes sense about the objective being of the least articulate life form. on the one hand it is pure non-homogenous differentiation, and at once in time IT really IS an Identity of homogenous appearance present to Light. There must have been some focus onto the central point of growth in the darkness of incredible illuminating heat.

    Nevertheless the laws of thermodynamics are not needed to sustain anything like a growth into the sunlight.
     
  13. thedope

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    It can be perceived as painful but this need not be.
    The only pain that comes from letting go comes from rope burn in not quite succeeding. I am never farther away from something than when I think I am near. Not there or not here albeit it near is neither here nor there. Being is a journey without distance. Our own sorting out means nothing. One of the contributors to pain is the belief that it is helpful. It certainly isn't for anyone with sufficient sensitivity/awareness. You can pass your hand through a flame without sensation of peril or injury because you know that it would take time or holding it there in the flame for the flame to begin to burn your hand. The sound lesson of pain is you don't like it.

    The least concern is the same as the greatest devotion and the least irritation the same as the greatest catastrophe. There are no idle thoughts.
     
  14. thedope

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    Well understanding in this instance is like fertilizer. Self denial inhibits or slows down growth as surely as blotting out the sun. A plant grown up in moderate climes may survive but not vigorously or prodigiously if left to the desert at the same time the same seed will flourish given it's optimum conditions.

    Harmlessness/legitimacy is obliterated if we hold or are held harmful.
     
  15. tikoo

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    " Your name is the symbol for division .
    There is one thing you are forbidden to
    divide - the mother from which you arose .
    Speak her name . "

    what could this mean ? it comes from an old poem , and
    here a goddess is being addressed . her monologue rant
    has been interrupted . who is speaking is not named or described .
     
  16. thedope

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    I am is the name we call ourselves
     
  17. tikoo

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    the goddess has most insistent in defining herself with wild
    claims .

    there can be 3 characters portrayed in that writing . i'll think the
    one that speaks with no name is our anonymous writer . the
    goddess' name relates to how she has been thinking of idea as
    her pure existence - a whore , possessing everything and its opposite
    and giving the reader all manner of shocking distortion .

    and then she has been asked to name the source of her being .
    she did not . so I wrote one in the margin .
     
  18. thedope

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    But it is a name we inherited.

    The inverse of I am is Maya.
     
  19. Monkey Boy

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    The pain is caused by being too engrossed in the story. There is no pain with one foot in time and the other in eternity. I had two feet in time and I let myself get carried away. Feeling the pain I see it for what it is. A thought causing an emotional response.

    I say close to truth, because with loss, the untrue things pass away and what's left is the barren rock. I am naked and fragile and life is raw.
     
  20. thedope

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    So the seeds of the earth that were planted long ago still yield a better harvest than rock is prone to grow.
     

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