Everything doesn't make any sense.

Roamy describes it as a natural flow . can the flow of awareness
be manipulated ?

 

Leucippus believes it is the awareness per being as worlds for no one in particular; that exists in a flow against our Wills. One would think that is manipulated. But I guess the internal atoms are hard fast in the void and inert. The worlds are reflected into each one of us. So it seems the senses don't agree with one another after-all. How?: we can know NOW too because we stand together with a common ideology.:2thumbsup:

 

I was counting humans as a part of the universe.

 

They are part of it, I'm sorry now that I reread it I think we may be arguing semantics. I like the initial thought but it seems you have to explain yourself over and over and now I accidently may have added to that I am glad to say I think I roughly understand where you came from with this thread!

 

we may acknowledge it and act from the common sense of now ,
a common sense of simultaneous . by this , music may spin and a
spiral may arise .

as soon as I see you what I see is already gone . we have an idea
to compensate for this glitch . it's a psychic existence idea .

 

thou shall not count demented clowns . they are as a whole hopelessly unaccountable .
that is , you only need to encounter 2 of them or the same one twice .

 

in an effervescent sea

gas escapes solution

atmospheric pressures then conduct flow

in habitable zones eddies are moved along

by prevailing winds

 

common sense is so uncommon

 

I just thought the idea was so simple that I wouldn't have to explain it over and over again. It was a little disappointing to me to find out that nobody knew what I was talking about.

I just don't think everything makes sense. There's an element of abstraction to everything. Everything is like, two different things. One pertains completely to you and one is completely indifferent to you, abstract from anything you think about it in relation to yourself. But abstract is still a human concept, and if the world is actually abstract, well that would be pretty cool.

You can still have common sense and believe everything doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any less sense. Nothing does.

 

First of all I believe what makes sense to ME makes sense similarly or by analogy to SOMEONE else. David Hume didn't think so. He thought people I guess followed instructions from far and wide.

And... christianity is even historically applying the Golden Rule. Yeah.

 

But you're looking at it from a completely involved standpoint and ignoring what happens if you try to view things as they actually are. What I am saying is that, regardless of who is right, there is really no saying that it all makes sense. It makes sense from a human standpoint, but a human standpoint isn't an objective standpoint. We need to believe certain things for our own psychological welfare and are a poor judge of how abstract we are.

 

Because human beings aren't objects?

 

What is it that makes us not objects? Our bodies are certainly made of matter. Of course there is a question of whether or not information is physical at all.

How is it less abstract that we are not objects and are controlling physical matter? Isn't the realm of matter entirely abstract from the realm of the soul, then? But I digress: there is nothing wrong with matter. I think being an object has a bad rep.

 

It looks like being subjective is what gets the bad rap in this conversation.

 

Being completely subjective is getting a bad rap here... We all have to acknowledge that there is an empirical world out there. We can't all just subjectively believe whatever we wish.

So what is this empirical world like? Why does it even have to make sense to us? The fact is that it doesn't make sense to us, because it doesn't make sense. It just is.

 

But keep on trying to remember and truly make empirical sense of this subjective along with the objective used for empirical proof. Subjective empiricals define the "ruled appearing" objectives with the feeling about how it happens for everyone else.

 

all that is required for making sense is that we are touched . even
when blind and shy of understanding of what has touched you with
kindness you will respond with appropriate instinct . to misunderstand
an oddly shaped kindness would indicate the kindness was a ruse .

perhaps in considering this more specifically a kindness may be
delivered ineptly . oh , well .

I find the universe to be kind .

 

Once this is accepted nothing makes sense because you've been freed from every belief.

 

I beg to differ. What you are describing are abstract responses to abstract stimuli. In order for something to make sense it has to be able to be described. That's the distinction between the sensible and the abstract.

I don't. I find it to be coldly indifferent. One day you're walking along; next day you're being eaten by a shark. However, I do find human beings to be kind, so the universe does have an aspect of kindness.

 

'Jackie Treehorn....' Ah well :biggrin: