Everything Collective-Unconscious Discussion Thread!

i'm not denying the beyond to the box of the physical, although our ability to experience beyond its limitations neither proves nor disproves any claim of knowledge about it.

but rather and more simply, that whatever there is, owes nothing, to the confines of the box, of what we tell each other.
if its not know its not known. doesn't mean "can't" nor "has to", it simply means "not known".

you want devils you can have them, or angels or whatever, personally i kind of like vorlons, but whatever,
the point of THAT is no mysterious forces are required to account for the harm that is caused by hating logic, or consideration, or honesty, or even imagination.

yes you can experience things that are beyond physical knowledge. fine. so enjoy them.
but don't be trying to demand what someone else experiences, how they interpret what they experience.
they are not you. no matter how many of the same words two people might use, to try to describe their non-physical experiences,
which may very likely not even be the same non-physical experiences at all.

 

i totally agree with the first two phrases. where you lost me was at "you have to".

doesn't matter if the words are myth or not.
the words, whatever words they are, IS the "all this crap" that a baby doesn't have.

 

Some people do know something about what lies beyond the physical, though, themnax. I have caught glimpses. I can't say I know what it means, however. Whatevever consciousness is is more abstract than science has dreamed. It is an abstraction. It exists in a realm that is negligent to time and space I don't know why. I don't know how. But I know that it is.

 

I believe everybody has the ability to transcend into non physical realms with enlightenment, I think it's a segment in each individuals brain to do so, an unlocked potential if you will. Although it is locked in our DNA, it is possible to unlock this through meditation and such.

I have an uncanny ability to predict things, almost like a vision from the future to the point where if I start to receive that flashback while taking action, I will stop if I feel a negative vibe. I have missed 3 car accidents because of this. I remember once I knew dead set, I could see this car in front of me was going to make a late turn into my lane, cleaning us both out and as I was driving behind I was seeing ahead and I slowed and down and without fail this car makes a quick right turn into my lane to take a corner.

Maybe some say that's dejavu or what but I seem to get it most than usual and I don't really practice meditation anymore, but when I did I believe I unlocked something, maybe just small and minute, but it's definitely opened up that sense.

 

Total darkness appears to be total darkness to this perception, But its not total darkness, Its 'pure light' .. Its so pure nothing to disturb it, nothing to reflect it.. But it looks like nothing and total darkness to people.. But it really isn't its pure light purest form of light of consciousness. its everything..its like.. you go out into space in the noon time, bright sunlight you see.. you think its light.. Then when it crosses the atmosphere there is nothing to reflect light anymore and you see nothing, you see total darkness .. But its not darkness, its pure light.. it just cant be seen using the two eyes that sees duality, it can only be seen when the 2 eyes become 1. When you learn to see beyond contradictions.. Nobody has seen light on this planet, Unless they go into altered states of consciousness.

 

I agree with you completely. I understand what you are saying. I understood it the first time you said.. But sound cannot exist without silence and silence cannot exist without sound, they are both the same.. What you are saying is only one half of the picture. You are picking silence. You cannot pick silence, You need 'balance' Both silence and sound. Consciousness cannot be conscious of itself without crystallizing as energy. Yin and Yang, Shiva and Shakti, Adam and Eve , Alpha and Omega, No-thing and Every-thing, Zero and infinity, Positive and Negative, Anima Animus whatever you use to express this thing idc.. The play of Energy through which Consciousness witnesses itself, Silence and Sound, Soundless Sound.. You cannot separate it.. If you want to go into that state, you need perfect stillness, nothing should matter to you, The moment you feel it, Everything will matter to you, At the same time.

 

This is one of the most meaningful things I've ever seen!




All this pics mean the same thing..

It loops, The moment you feel that state, You will loop with everything, interface with everything. The moment you achieve that stillness and go within yourself, take that quantum leap.. the moment you go beyond that barrier that separates ocean and waves.. You will feel the entire ocean as you, all waves as you, Then it would matter to you, Everything will. There is no physical and non physical, This world and other worlds, Whatever people can see, they call it this world, Whatever they cannot see/feel, They call it other worlds, The moment you are atleast close to that state, There is only one thing to you.. Everything is it.. no matter whatever form it takes, Everything is consciousness. I understand you saying nothing should matter to you if you want to go into that state, But at the same time, Everything will matter to you, When you go into it.

 

That video is not able to upload and you're not able to make any posts on here if 1 + 1 does not equal 2. So how do you reconcile this undeniable dependency on logic with that existentialist view?

 

Physical and Non physical are not two things.. Its ONE THING , Flesh and Spirit is NOT two things... its the SAME THING.. When you go deeper into an atom, You will realize its not solid.. The deeper you go, The less solid you realize it is. And you realize everything is one single thing.. There is no difference. Just like.. turning on 2 bulbs, the light is merged together.

 

1 + 1 is not 2 because there is no two things, Its a scientific fact.. You need two things for that to be true. Logic cannot understand it because logic is based on the idea of duality, The language and concepts thats based on duality. You need an altered state of consciousness to be able to understand it. Or just common sense. You won't feel it if you keep thinking. You will feel it when you stop thinking.

 

It's definitely not common sense or scientific fact at any macroscopic level in which we reside in. I've had many an altered state of consciousness

 

Its been a scientific fact for a long time now, Just because you cannot understand it, Doesn't mean its not a scientific fact.

 

How can two contradictory things exist at the same time, Watch it, You will know..
Or you can cling onto your old thought patterns that won't get you anywhere.

 

Its the simplest thing ever, Common sense.. Everything made of silly putty IS SILLY PUTTTY., no matter what shape it takes, What names you call it, you me this that tree rock ugly beautiful evil good, Its Common sense that its SILLY PUTTY, there is no you and me and this and that, Everything made of it, IS it . Its the MOST SIMPLE THING IN EXISTENCE TO UNDERSTAND. you dont even need science for it, LOOK AROUND, do you see 2 things, or one thing that keeps changing forms? You didnt pop out of the sky, you were something else before, then somethin else, the same thing, changing into differnet forms its the most simple thing, Common sense, just look around. What did you eat today?

 

You have automatically created duality by saying there are things called blades of grass and there are things called grains of sand. When we count grains of sand to say 1 + grain sand + 1 grain sand is equal to 2 grain sands we are equating the type of thing.

 

I haven't created duality, nobody can create duality by saying it, Because duality doesn't exist. Its an idea. no matter how much you say it Won't be true. You can say it all you want, existence will always remain non dual

 

I say, therefore I create.

 

1 + 1 = 2

 

You can word play all you want, Its just words.. You don't need altered states to understand it. just go out and look. See and not think, you will understand it. and i already talked about balance. Of yin and yang. we covered all this before.. so if someone can understand, they will. its pointless to keep talking about the same things that we covered earlier. You can make up tons of words 100, 1000, 100000, a billion and play wit it, You will just go crazy when its made of the same stuff, You can just realize it and laugh.