Europe vs. the USA

Discussion in 'Europe' started by bird_migration, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    gimmie a break. some of the best people I have ever known n the WORLD are from france, including my gf.

    but at the same time..people have been bashing americans for re electing bush a second term when france nearly elected a racist president in 2002.

    after a while any country looks shitty in foreign policy and its dealings if you dig enough...but most educated people can make the distinction between a shitty leader and the people within the country.

    each country has its share of idiots and also well educated/peaceful open minded folks, so enough of the bashing. a person is a person..not their country and its ideals as we all have differing opinions.
     
  2. SelfStyled

    SelfStyled Banned

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    Hmmm didnt read thro all of this.Just read pg 1 , which was probably MORE than enough.

    But why is it Americans always claim they quote "bailed us out in the World Wars".

    Actually what happened was that America built up Hitlers Germany into the monster it was.George Bush's grandfather was actually charged with trading with the enemy ( Hitler) even when the D Day landings were happening.

    America had a huge part in creating WW2 - so it could see the dominant powers of Europe destroy each other , with the aim of it taking over as the dominant world power.
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    Anyway heres my 2 penneth.

    Whys America so full of :-

    1)fat people.
    2)Bogus religous genocidal maniacs who want to ban everything from science books , freedom of speech and saying the word fuck in public.
    3)Ignorant dickheads who'd bend over for George Bxsh , and couldnt spot their own country on the map.
    4)from page one .Aint nuclear proliferation a briliant idea?
    After America blew 2 cities off the face of the map , after it had already won a war , to show off , wouldnt it make sense to let Korea or Iran or Timbuctoo strategically reduce the number of fat , deraged pretend Christian religous zealouts who cant spell their own name?

    No offence intended to anyone , apart from the type of pricks that post on "freerepublic.com"
     
  3. SelfStyled

    SelfStyled Banned

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    Carlfloyd , just read your post.

    Re France , yes le Pen was a right little shit.
    BUT , the forces that got his vote were about the uncontrolled forces of globalism - meaning immigration was reducing working /lower middle class wages and creating major cultural tension in cities.
    The other political elites in France had insisted on bowing down to GLobalism and unbalanced immigration and the huge problems in can bring

    The forces that got Bxsh into power were no different from what Hitler's game was
    ie rob a country blind , commit a lot of genocide and lie thro your teeth over the whole thing.

    Surely theres a huge difference between the le Pen and the Bxsh motivations-even tho they are both twats?
     
  4. USA in decline

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    you forgot the mexicans.
     
  5. USA in decline

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    IM sorry to inform you but russians did 90% of the fight against the germans man power wise . By the time the allies landed in normandy Germanys best equipt best trained elite troops die in the russian soil "AND WINTER" not the germans troops foult but Hitler stupid decision. other wise normandy would had never happen. even with germany bottom of the barrel guarding normandy the allies almost fail. The remaining elite german troops were trying to hold back the waves of millions of russians who would face execution by stalin if they fail.
     
  6. dreamingwight

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    Peace and love... we're all brothers... bah.. you're not an Hippie, you're an idiot..
     
  7. dreamingwight

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    I'm Italian, for example... tibi stultus esse videor, man? Oh... it doesn't matter... I forgive you... semel in anno licet insanire. Haud scio an non possis capere... sed potest fieri ut fallar.
     
  8. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    The Americans are so stuck up that when I try and go into American politics section and post a reply, it is access denied.


    Americans have everything through invasion. They will soon be able to add another star to their flag once they have successfully colonized Iraq and possibly Iran and north Korea.
     
  9. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Do you really think they'd been able to colonize Iraq in a "succesfull" way????
     
  10. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    There will be no invasion of Iran and North Korea. Ofcourse the neocons wish they could do so, but finally they have faced reality:

    A hegemonic power can't keep its hegemony forever. What we witness these day is the beginning of the end of US global hegemony...

    White House is desperate. They are drowning in shit, and they desperately try to maintain the illusion that everything is going fine, because if they admit that they're in deep shit trouble - that they're surely aware of - they have lost the very last tiny bit of public support and existential legitimitation...
     
  11. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    Thats insulting. Trust me, many people oppose bush! Je suis anti bush!

    sometimes I feel I am an american in name only! Many americans are on the same page as their european counterparts on the current state of america.

    also, anyone who is slightly aware will be able to seperate government/bush from the people within the usa as they will realize millions oppose this asshole. Its assholes who have never been to america to see the strong oppostion that typically lump all americans into one damn category..well no thanks!

    bushs approval rating is what, 30%? granted quite a few of that 70% demographic is lazy, sadly. but give the hardworking anti bush americans credit. Bush does not speak for the majority of this country, SO REALIZE IT and get off of your illusionary high horse. thanks
     
  12. scratcho

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    One of the sad things about the Usa is the manipulation of the media by the monied class with the resulting ignorance of most of us here.A few huge conglomerates own pretty much all of the so-called news and parrot the conservative line day in and day out.This country could help to make the peoples of the world happier,healthier and our own citizens educated in a more thorough way.NO___it's become all about the accumulation of wealth and the hell with everyone else including americans ,europeans,africans,ect,ect.Yeah--there's some big changes coming for us.And not good ones ,I'm sure.An ignorant populace is a compliant populace.That's what been made of us.
     
  13. J0hn

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    France were one of the countries that didn't support the invasion of Iraq. They threatened to veto any resolution. Wish our country did that but no. Tony Blair decides we must go to war.
     
  14. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    I don't see it
    SOURCE: INSTITUTE OF INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION
    http://web.ebscohost.com.prxy3.ursus.maine.edu/ehost/detail?vid=17&hid=14&sid=80ea5510-edc0-414a-a189-8fcbda14b7f1%40SRCSM2

    Foreign Students' Countries of Origin, 2004-5 Legend for Chart:

    A - Country or territory
    B - Students
    C - 1-year change

    A B C

    India 80,466 +0.9% UP
    China 62,523 +1.2 UP
    South Korea 53,358 +1.7 UP
    Japan 42,215 +3.4 UP
    Canada 28,140 +4.2 UP

    Taiwan 25,914 -1.0 down by ONLY -1
    Mexico 13,063 -2.0
    Turkey 12,474 +9.4
    Germany 8,640 -1.2
    Thailand 8,637 -3.4

    Britain 8,236 -2.4
    Indonesia 7,760 -12.6
    Colombia 7,334 -2.6
    Brazil 7,244 -7.1
    Hong Kong, China 7,180 -2.4 down ONLY -2

    Kenya 6,728 -8.8
    France 6,555 -3.9
    Nigeria 6,335 +3.2
    Pakistan 6,296 -14.0 ONLY severe drastic change
    Malaysia 6,142 -5.3 down ONLY -5

    Venezuela 5,279 -5.3
    Russia 5,073 -8.3
    Nepal 4,861 +10.9 UP

    Jamaica 4,368 12.5
    Singapore 3,769 -4.7 down MINIMAL AMOUNT
    Vietnam 3,670 +16.0 UP
    Bulgaria 3,644 -2.4
    Peru 3,631 -3.7

    Philippines 3,531 +1.8
    Spain 3,512 -3.3
    Argentina 3,363 -7.7
    Israel 3,323 -4.3
    Chile 3,290 +104.1

    Italy 3,261 -1.4
    Romania 3,217 -3.1
    Ghana 3,114 -5.3
    Sweden 3,106 -0.3
    Saudi Arabia 3,035 -13.8

    Trinidad & Tobago 2,930 -19.5
    Poland 2,861 -1.8
    Bangladesh 2,758 -13.8
    Australia 2,659 -1.7
    Iran 2,251 -3.0

    Ecuador 2,177 -7.2
    Lebanon 2,040 -6.4
    Greece 2,035 -4.3

    most of those are on the uprise with none going below -20. And Asia, which was the key compenent in the arguement is actually on the upswing.

    and I am not even going to waste my time with some of that other shit.

    Like the author of the book "european dream" is really credible. we don't even know who he is or what he has done. sounds like baseless american bashing.
     
  15. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Aye and makes us even more unpopular with our fellow EU citizens. Personally, we should be sticking with what the EU says and not what America says. Yes, the EU is annoying at times, but we need our countries to get a long in order to get anywhere.
     
  16. KasabianRulesMan!

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    It s what i told before... The World veer slowly because out there in america a baby is drivin the US destiny...
    But the reign of the fuckin baby comes to an end... there some democrat frisco police agents down the road...
     
  17. iloveu

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    i love europe thank God im not american.im not saying this for all americans
    but most of them think they're the only one in this world they think they can command everyone and shit like that but in fact they're just a bunch of fat idiots
    that dont have a clue that there's a big world out there and alot of wonderful people
    that are not necessary americans!cuz i know americans are everything else but tolerant to strangers..
     
  18. Svi

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    (I just wanted to repost this, it's kind of funny :)
     
  19. myself

    myself just me

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    Wow.
    What's funny is that Europeans would say the same things, but in their own favor :D
     

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