Duck Dynasty Might Be Over

"the vast majority of the country is in support'." I imagine that's true. Sadly. What exactly is it that is being supported? His right to be an ignorant bigot. Or that the business he worked and got paid by, decided he was a bigot? Other networks that support him" You betcha. Stirred up shit sells in this country. Maybe the 'rasslin channel will pick 'em up.

 

How is he an ignorant bigot? Or because he speaks from a book? He didn't work for them, They did all they could to keep DD on A&E because that show made more money than any other shows on it.
If they want to call him a bigot, Who cares, He still has the right to say whatever the fuck he wants. If the person watching don't like it, Turn channel. That fucking simple and if they don't and sit and bitch, They are the ignorant ones. The channel it will go to, Will put it in the perfect time slot that will catch and net even more $$.
But, As it sits, Limp wrists can twinkle toe around and flame about because they fall under LGTSADF association. Now if you say something toward them you are 'bad'. Fuck them, They can jockey for pole position, Another has the right to speak whatever he or she feels anytime they fell like it.

 

It seems people are under the impression that freedom of speech, means freedom of speech without consequences. You are free to say anything you want. It doesn't mean you can always get away with it.

 

why did 3 people give this a thumbs down? It seems pretty rational.

Freedom of speech protects you from government, meaning you can't get arrested or punished by the government for anything you say (within reason). It does not protect you from an outcry of public opinion. It does not protect you from disagreement. It does not protect you from your job IN THIS CASE. I can't get fired for holding a private opinion outside of work but if I were a public representative for my company I could get fired for sharing a personal opinion in a work related interview.

We've actually received emails at work before on how to handle media inquiries (not that we would ever get any, but just in case). I'm sure the Duck Dynasty crew all signed some kind of contract requiring them to conduct themselves a certain way in interviews as they are representing A&E in any interview they give. They are nothing more than a brand.

As an example, the Kardashians are also a brand. I'm sure they are severely limited in what they can and cannot say in the public eye as a result of their contract with E! I bet no one here would give a shit if E! ended their contract because of something they said publicly.

I don't really know why anyone gives a shit about these guys, personally.

 

Because I said it.

 

It's obviously logical, and again, a lot of people seem to have a really dim idea of what freedom of speech means.

 

The simple fact of the matter is that someone somewhere got offended by what Mr. Robertson said, man. People around here seem to typically think that speaking your mind is all that counts. As far as I'm concerned if you havn't got a thing to say that isn't ignorant, best say nothing at all. Having watched the show myself several times, I can honestly say that I for one am not in the least bit astounded by Phil's points of view.

 

Yeah, the idiot can say what he wants and A&E can fire their employee for saying ignorant homophobic racist things if they want. And if your predictions are right and some other channel is foaming at the mouth for the duck show, they can hire him.

What part of that is hard for you to understand?

 

Obviously it can have consequences, but I don't have to support that since I believe true freedom is unregulated. And, for your information, freedom of speech, as it was originally was intended, does mean free speech without consequences, unless it entails threatening someone, or slandering/libeling an individual in a way that jeopardizes their reputation. Even then it can, and often is, taken to an extreme. My opinion is that words are just words, and that if a person takes an offense to something, that is really their problem. The US has become a country of wimps, and if people cannot tolerate criticism, constructive or otherwise, then it's a sign of just how softened up we've become.

 

meanwhile in Iran.. :leaving:

 

The guy was asked a question and gave an honest answer. It's what he believes, whether you agree with it or not. Is he supposed to not say what he believes when he was asked a direct question, out of fear it might offend someone? Fuck that! I don't agree with his opinion, but he has every right to say it. And yeah, A&E has every right to get rid of the show, but that doesn't mean their decision is right just because you happen to agree with it.

 

This isn't slander?

"homosexuality morphs into bestiality"

"They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, god haters, they are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless, they invent ways of doing evil.”

For your information, that's slander.

slan·derslandr/nounLAWnoun:*slander1.

the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

 

No, that is not slander.

The legal definition of slander refers to the slandering of another individual -- not an unnamed group of people who might happen to identify themselves with a label (gay, straight, etc.) You cannot sue a person in court for saying something bad about a broad group of people. That would be an extreme violation of freedom of speech.

 

I didn't say it was right or wrong, I said the decision was a business decision not to piss of their viewer base.

And he's a public figure, that does require some eloquence with words. If instead of "homosexuality morphs into bestiality "They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, god haters, they are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless, they invent ways of doing evil.”

He had said "I have moral objections to homosexuality." He would have gotten away with it and still been able to state his opinions tactfully.

 

No one is suing anyone. He got fired, not sued. Which is A&E's right as a private company. It's not a matter of law, is a matter of rights. He has the RIGHT to say whatever he wants, and A&E has the RIGHT to fire him for it.

 

And again, would have been the exact same thing if he had been a radical jihadist, shouted "god is great, destroy America" it would again be freedom of speech, he would have been allowed to say is, A&E would still be allowed to fire him over it, and nobody would feel his rights had been infringed.

 

I never said anyone is suing anyone. I am talking about what slander is defined as when applied to what I originally wrote about slander in my previous post.

My point is that it does not fit the legal definition of slander, therefore it isn't slander just because you say it is.

I already addressed A&E's right to dismiss the show. I am not going over it again.

 

It's also not an infringement on his freedom of speech just because you say it is.

 

That is different because it entails an implied threat -- not simply an opinion. I think that should be pretty obvious.

 

hey Mallard brained
Phil Robertso!
you have offended and hurt so many dear friends of mine,
who DO NOT have the voice or the outreach that I do.
well news flash
shower-dodger,
I will speak loudly and clearly for ALL of them.
so,
just when your desperately sub evolved ass thought the pressure was off,
you are now in the crosshairs of a MaSheen style media
beat down.
(I'll try to keep the big words to a minimum as not to confuse you)

your statements were and are
abhorrently and
mendaciously unforgivable.

the idea that you have a job
outside of dirt-clod stacking
is a miracle.

the only 'Dynasty' you are attached to might be the
re-runs of that dated show.

the only thing you should ever be in charge of building is a hole in the ground the exact size of your head.
perhaps your beard would fit as well if you plucked out the
army of scabies and
bull weevils sequestered deep in it's sarcophagus of dander and weasel pelts.

shame on you.
you're the only surviving
brain donor I've ever known.

when the gators and Egrets
kick you out of their
hovel,
you need to make serious amends to those you have
radically offended.

on the eight day
when I was whittling my cosmic banjo,
I'm pretty sure YOU were the scattered dross I then used to light a fire and
locate the nearest
Andy Gump.

repulsed by you;
c sheen https://twitter.com/charliesheen

hash tag;
Duck; that was me.