Donald Trump

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  1. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I was at a thrift store today and actually seen a Trump T-Shirt, "Make America Great Again". I almost bought it as a gag but it was too small.
     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I blame the right and their hate mongering, their refusal to compromise, their shutting down of the government, their attack on intellectualism, the glorification of nationalism and bigotry, the blaming of government for everything, their emphasis of ideological purity, the insistence of pushing their religious views into government, the hate and venom they spew at anyone who doesn't agree with them, their pandering to the rich and powerful, their pettiness and greed, their insistence on their rights at the expense of everyone else.

    I would also point out their refusal to address violence in the streets, poverty, women's rights, their homophobia, their attack on education, workers rights and unions, their willingness to make the Middle East sands glow and bomb them back to the stone age, their willingness to torture people in violation of the Geneva Convention, and their desire to murder the innocent families of terrorists.

    This is fascism disguised as God fearing patriotism.
    I blame the right for Trump's popularity.

    http://youtu.be/WqVCvbtfkho​
     
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  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Here's a partial list of Hillary's accomplishments....and I voted for Sanders.
    She truly is an amazing woman.

    Hillary Clinton has contributed to:




    She has supported:
    Abuse, AIDS & HIV, Animals, Bullying, Children, Civil Rights, Conservation, Creative Arts, Depression and Suicide, Diabetes, Disaster Relief, Economic/Business Support, Education, Environment, Family/Parent Support, Gender Equality, Health, Homelessness, Human Rights, Hunger, LGBT Support, Literacy, Miscellaneous, Oceans, Peace, Poverty, Rape/Sexual Abuse, Slavery & Human Trafficking, Water, Women

    She has:
    .... (While) at Wellesley in 1968, Martin Luther King was assassinated. In response, she worked with the college's African-American students to organize a peaceful two-day strike, avoiding the sometimes violent student disruptions rocking other American colleges in this era.
    Hillary became the first student in Wellesley's history to offer its commencement address, and received a 7 minute standing ovation.
    Hillary Rodham was on the editorial board of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action. She worked with the Yale Child Study Center, contributing to the Beyond the Best Interests of the Child, a study of child placement laws. In 1973, she wrote "Children Under the Law", which examines Childrens' legal rights. An analysis of her article is here: "What Hillary Rodham Clinton Really Said About Children's Rights and Child Policy"
    • Hillary researched issues affecting migrant workers for Walter Mondale's congressional subcommittee on Migratory Labor.
    • Hillary Rodham served as staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund.
    • During the Watergate scandal, she served as a member of the impeachment inquiry staff, advising the House Judiciary committee.
    • Hillary joined the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Arkansas. She pursued patent infringement and intellectual property law, working pro bono for child advocacy. She became a partner in 1979, the first woman to do so.
    • She co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977. She continued to publish scholarly articles in the field of children's law.
    • From 1978 through 1981, Hillary served on the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation, a nonprofit designed to ensure equal access to legal justice for all Americans.
    • She served on the board of nonprofits: The Arkansas Children's Hospital, The Children's Defense Fund, The American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession.
    • She headed the unsuccessful effort to achieve national healthcare reform.
    • Hillary Clinton worked with the U.S. Senate to pass the State Children's Health Insurance Program. She initiated the Adoption and Safe Families Act and was influential the passage of Foster Care Independence Act.
    • As First Lady, Hillary Clinton traveled extensively and advocated for women's rights around the world.
    • She served on Senatorial committees, including Budget; Armed Services; Environment and Public Works; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, and a special Committee on Aging.
    • While in the Senate, she worked in a bipartisan manner with Republicans.
    • Following the 9/11 attacks, she was instrumental in securing funding for recovery efforts and increased security for New York state.
    • By 2005, she began calling for gradual withdrawal from Iraq and opposed the increase of troop deployment of 2007. She voted in 2007 for a spending bill that would require a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.
    • She voted against Bush's tax cuts, which have increased federal deficits immensely.
    • Hillary Clinton supported immigration reform as a senator.
    • Hillary Clinton led a bipartisan effort to bring broadband access to rural communities.
    • She conducted many diplomatic missions and visited over 100 countries, more than any previous Secretary of State. She did a great deal to repair international relations after damage caused by the unilateral approaches taken by the Bush administration.
    • She lead the U.S. response to the Arab Spring in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Yemen, and other countries.
    • As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton promoted women's right and human rights as vital to U.S. political interests. She advocated for gay rights at the UN Human Rights Council.
    • In 2009 she unveiled the Global Hunger and Food Security Initiative for Bill Clinton's Clinton Global Initiative.
     
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  4. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    That's all good to know. She will be waaaaaaay, waaaaay better than ANY republican. And I think Sanders is pulling/pushing and will continue to pull/push her to the left. It's Bernie time IMO, but I guess many are not ready for changes that would actually help the working class. To much Fox, Limbaugh and Hannity for 30 years.
     
  5. YouFreeMe

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    I don't think it's Bernie time, quite yet. That time is on the horizon, just starting to spread it's light. It will fully rise.
     
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  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I see more hate and venom spewing from the left toward any opposition, while they pride on being open minded. Women's rights? What rights do men have that women don't? Religion? Yeah I can agree with you on that. One of many reasons I'll never be a republican. Violence in the streets? Oh yeah that's a left and a right wing problem these days with black lives matter riots in the streets, silencing opposition with violence, Trump supporters getting jumped and beaten as well as Trump protestors getting beaten. When in recent times have protestors used violence and intimidation to shut down leftist rallys and speakers?

    Wanting to bomb and drone the middle east became a bi-partisan measure less than 8 years ago, where've you been man?

    For a liberal, I kinda like Bill Maher. At least he's recognizing the cancer that is political correctness and has exposed it for being a pox on humanity.

    I'll see your Bill Maher, and raise you Milo Yianopolous, Christina Hoff Summers, and Steven Crowder: The Triggering

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss7KmiHLmA
     
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  7. Flagme15

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    I actually blame the media for the rise of trump. The media has been more concerned with the advertising dollars generated by covering him.
    In reality, if they had been vetting him all along, he might not be the next president.
     
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  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You see hate from the left......!!!!

    As far as women's rights, if you have to ask you're clueless.

    The violence in the streets I was referring to was crime, due in many cases to poverty.

    Violence in both parties is increasing, but only Trump seems to condone it.

    Drone strikes and carpet bombing till the sand glows are two completely different animals, that's where I've been.

    I don't know who the asshole is in your video is, but he has an anger management problem.
     
  9. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Well if you can't provide any examples of your own, you're probably clueless yourself. And forget about the wage gap; it's been debunked a bazillion times over and no economist takes it seriously. Nowhere in the west do men have more rights than women. The middle east? Absolutely, and it's horrible the way Islamists treat women under Sharia Law. (But be careful to insult muslims.... That'll send you on a one-way ticket to a liberalized sensitivity training camp for reeducation). Maybe you're referring to how society bitches and moans about the lack of women in the S.T.E.M. academics and careers. Why not put up the same stink about the lack of men in female-dominant fields like nursing? It's simply because more women are not interested in the S.T.E.M fields (even when the incentives are given) just as most men aren't interested in pursuing nursing. It's true that even now, women are given all sorts of incentives and scholarships to enter such fields (you don't see the same incentives to push men to enter female dominant fields), and companies are more likely to hire them to diversify their work staff than they are to hire men.


    He's a political commentator and comedian. Personally, I don't usually listen to his stuff because he's rather obnoxious in his podcasts, and his humor is too right wing for my taste. And like all commedians dealing with hecklers, he took the matters into his own hands and kicked ass. I'm sure if you were interrupted and heckled during your presentations by one of your students, that would piss you off too.
     
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  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    If you can't research on your on.....

    From a U.N. report 11/11/15:
    From the ACLU:
    Human Rights Watch:
    Huffington Post:
    AAUW:
    ...and I'll stop there, no use wasting anymore of my time.
     
  12. Meliai

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    I blame a couple of decades of divisive politics on Trump, and yet here we are still arguing left vs right wing lolol
     
  13. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes the media coverage Trump has gotten would cost billions in political ads to get the same publicity. But hey he is news, and the mainstream media has no choice but to cover whatever is news.

    Keep in mind the media has attacked him repeatedly and he keeps shaking it off. That's why they call him Teflon Don. I blame Trump's supporters for standing by him no matter what. And now it's apparent his next tactic is to use the media to scandalize the Clintons. No surprise, that's what he needs to do to win the election. And it just might work considering he can't be scandalized.
     
  14. Flagme15

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    I disagree that the media has been attacking him. Trumps supporters will stand by him no matter what. They are too stupid to do otherwise.
    I don't get trump attacking Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is not running for president. Furthermore, trumps attacks may backfire because Bill Clinton has a 58% approval rating
     
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  15. Meliai

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    I have been thinking a bit about Trump's appearant masculine appeal.

    It seems odd to me because with his toupee, all the filler in his face, his orange spray tan, the weird way he motions up and down with his tiny hands, and the way he always speaks through pursed lips he always comes across as decidedly effiminate to me.

    I feel like Trump and his supporters are the political equivalent of men who drive giant trucks to make up for their micropenis. Most people don't really buy it as "masculine" and the ones that do probably have tiny penises too.
     
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  16. scratcho

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    For once I agree with you, Don.
     
  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Now Trump is saying he will do away with all gun free zones because Hillary wants to do away the 2nd amendment, a total lie by the way.

    This as the Secret Service has to shoot a man attempting entry to the White House while banishing a gun. The area around the White House is a gun free zone.
    So let's think about this for a minute.

    Trump would allow anyone to walk into a school with a gun. If an individual or group of individuals pulled up in front of a school with assault weapons there would be nothing law enforcement officers could do. A parent could enter the building for a teacher conference while carrying a shotgun, assault rifle, or Glock and not be turned away. I'm thinking his kid would get an "A" in my class.

    I could go to an abortion clinic and walk around with my weapon or weapons or go to the Republican Convention (where guns are currently banned) with a shotgun. I could get my Tea Party members, or KKK, or Neo Nazi group to tour the White House while carrying assault rifles with high capacity magazines, perfectly legal.

    How about bars? Private owners of bars could not exclude anyone from drinking while they play with their gun. In fact no public or private business, park, church, news agency, hospital, or anywhere else could stop you from walking in fully armed to the teeth.

    This will definitely make things much safer...all you have to do is see if that guy beside you has an assault rifle at the ready...we all know that legal gun owners never discharge their weapon except for sport or to stop bad guys. There has never been a case of a completely legal gun owner killing anyone with a gun so it'll be okay.
    I mean no one has ever said, "He was such a nice man, we never thought he could do such a thing."


    Now that I think some more...how will we know if the gun is legal, or if the individual with the gun is sane, or what their intentions are, or if that guy with the Saturday Night Special in the Quicky Mart is going to buy a Slushy or shoot the manager?

    Guess I'll have to work on my quick draw.

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    Here is a nice article by a Harvard educated conservative thinker/journalist Ben Shapiro criticizing the trump movement of it's antisemitism. He is rightly pointing out that forums like 4chan have become a hotbed of antisemitism and Trumpism. I can't read the /pol subforum on 4chan anymore for this reason. I really think Bernie Sanders is the best candidate America has as at least he is willing to give a voice to minorities and people of color.

    Some examples of the antisemitic tweets he was sent on twitter after this article:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsBO2q7NHGM
     
  19. newo

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    Not all the media has attacked him, but plenty of it has, and not just the liberal media. He's been taken to task for racism, sexism, his cheap shot attacks on other candidates, his making impossible promises to the voters and his overall lack of qualification to be President. And he claims it's a biased and corrupt media and his followers eat it up.

    If he attacks Bill Clinton he's asking for trouble. In a war of words I say Bill can take him.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
     
  21. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    There is no doubt that Bill is slick, but he is a very smart lawyer.
    This clip of him and the word "is" is often played out of context.

    He made the statement: "there's nothing going on between us" and was called a liar.

    The word "is", as Bill is saying can be used in the present tense or past tense. He was arguing that no he is not presently having an affair, not that he hadn't in the past.
    "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement".[4]

    So he wasn't lying as he defined his use of the word to mean at the present time.

    Same as the did you have sex question. He was talking about vaginal sex, not oral...

    "At the deposition, the judge rejected the plaintiff's lawyer's definition of the term "sexual relations"[2][3] that Clinton claims to have construed to mean only vaginal intercourse. Judge Wright then told the attorneys they could be as explicit as necessary in asking their questions."

    That's why the Senate refused to impeach him, it was not a bipartisan effort.
     
  22. You are shameless meagain.
     
  23. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Or maybe we had some senators in both parties who realized that it isn't a crime to get your dick sucked in the Oval Office, and 99 out of a hundred people accused would never admit to it on national TV. The whole thing was ridiculous. Just a partisan witch hunt.
     
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