Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Aug 21, 2015.

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  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    And that's just the problem. i remember a buddy of mine commenting on how he liked G.W. because he seemed like the kinda guy you could go have a beer with. Exactly!
     
  2. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Nobody mentioning it's Rubio that started the dick talk. Trump being who he is just responded.
    You can say we should have a president with more class but you can find some faults that a president shouldn't have in every single person who got 1 percent of any pole in this last election.
    Trump had the biggest poles...
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Funny how this guy reacts to Steins call for investigating the wisconsin votes. She didn't call it anything with certainty yet. She just wants to make it certain. Unlike this clown himself who yelled much more stupid stuff about 'rigged elections!' in advance :-D
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I do find it strange how Stein doesn't seem to have any interest in recounting in states like Nevada or New Hampshire where Hillary won my a much thinner margin; she's only interested in recounting Trump's states.

    Even weirder is she managed to raise $6 million or more for these recount efforts in one week. Which is double what she raised throughout the whole year for her presidential campaign as a Green Party candidate.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    As i understand it has to do with areas where computers were used. Could be far less the case in the states you mention? Just speculating.
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    From what I understand, Michigan is on that list of states targeted for recount. And that is a paper ballot state where no computerized voting machines existed.
     
  7. Okiefreak

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    As I understand it, the effort was triggered by a report by the Director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and an associated group of computer scientists and election lawyers that some of the machines could have been hacked, because they were vulnerable to that. That seems to have been particularly the case in rural areas of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, where the vulnerable machines were used. Allegedly, they were largely insecure and rarely matched against paper ballots. The group noted a statistical tendency for Clinton to have 7% less support in counties where the machines were used--mostly rural counties. Of course an alternative explanation is the folks in the rural counties liked Trump and/or hated Hillary, which would not be beyond the realm of possibility. I don't get the argument for Michigan, where voting is done by optical scan ballots and a tabulator, same as here in Oklahoma--but Michigan''s the state were the experts doing the challenging are based so maybe they know something I don't. Jill Stein took up the challenge based on their info. It's her right as a candidate to ask for a recount. She thinks it would be good to verify the integrity of our electoral system. If the outcome invalidates Trump's victory, we could have a civil war on our hands. But it does seem like quite a long shot. The other possibility is faithless electors--Trump electors refusing to vote for him in the Electoral College. Some Wisconsin electors are talking about doing that, but it's again a real long shot. I think we're stuck with the Donald, for better or (more likely) for worse.

    Parenthetically, these are national elections, and I don't think the methods for voting should be so completely left up to the idiosyncrasies of states and counties.
     
  8. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    And -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS3O5zg290k
    Some things never change
     
  9. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The remarkable thing is how the critics of the Clintons roll over at the suggestion by our Grifter in Chief soon to be that he will not put his undisclosed holdings in a blind trust and let his kids continue to run the business while he's President. His daughter sits in on heads of state meetings and phone calls and she'll be running Trump Enterprises. He's never disclosed his taxes so we don't really know the extent and scope of his foreign dealings, but the Russian ties of his cronies and his love affair with Putin raise suspicions. "Clean the swamp", my ass. He is the swamp!
     
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  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Because they live in the Bizarro world of htraE.

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    The home planet of Trump and his minions....​
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  11. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIDlFzvk4tU
     
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  12. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    So I was scanning the various questionable news services and ran across this:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/29/trump-takes-heat-for-wanting-to-outlaw-flag-burning-but-clinton-wanted-same-in-2005.html

    To me this is obvious, Trump's people are searching high and low for "outrageous" crap for Trump to say. After the press and the hard left reach peak freak, it is revealed that the opposition had the same position or said the same thing long ago.

    Why would they do this? Because it's classic, textbook trolling.

    Maybe it's time to quit worrying what comes out of the carnival barker's mouth and instead pay close attention to the actual show.
     
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    But it wasn't the same position. Clinton supported legal action against those who burned the flag for the purpose of inciting violence, and she never called for a revocation of citizenship.

    Typical half truths used to cover up Trump's total incomprehension of what it means to be president.
     
  14. storch

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    Going to jail for a year and suffering financial ruin is nothing to sneeze at.

    So, if Clinton had her way, and you burned a flag, and I got a couple of my friends to attack you, then it would be said that you burned a flag to incite violence.

    There will always be those who have a violent reaction to the burning of a flag.
     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Is that the way you interpret incitement of violence?

    I am not being violent by burning a flag as a protest anymore than if I burned a copy of the Constitution. You are being violent in that you and a couple of your friends initiated violent action against me for expressing a 1st Amendment right.

    Now, let's say you were carrying an American flag around as part of your protest and I, and a bunch of my friends, attacked you and ripped the flag from your hands and burned it. I would consider that burning the flag to incite violence.
     
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    Describe a scenario in which burning the flag is done to incite violence.
     
  17. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Right, because underhanded, dirty tricks are so alien to Washington insiders.
     
  18. GeorgeJetStoned

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    When it's a rainbow flag being burned.
     
  19. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    and the stories keep on coming...here is a link about a Pence supporter and hois mind set from Huffington Post about insulting 2 Asians in a diner....racism at its finest.....Yes...make America White again should have been trump's slogan....Don't these people realize that this continent first belonged to the red man....? Uneducated masses at its finest....the Trump/Pence supporters....
    This country was always divided, but now, it is more evident than ever....They are coming out of the woodwork....Trump has inspired them all.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-supporter-racist-diner_us_583ca1cde4b06539a78a0a1c
     
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  20. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I did.
     
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