Don´t remain tied, Darwin has lied

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by cabdirazzaq, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Note to Social Stoner:

    Please smoke another one - then ask yourself "Why do I feel the need to explain to these people why they are wrong?

    Then before you act on your threat to 'Continue on this later' - think about how you will justify that?

    Thanks
     
  2. BlackGuardXIII

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    Brocktoon, I have oft pondered exactly that about you.
    "Why do I feel the need to explain to these people why they are wrong?
    I see no need for either of us to be wrong.
    How do you justify your confident denunciation of other faiths. Proclaiming they are wrong, and none of them are as truly Godly as YOURs.
     
  3. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Better Question - Why do you insist YOUR beliefs are right and any contrary ones are wrong?
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    I disagree with the statement "In every sense an equal to any other human being". You are a completely unique individual who stands in their own understanding of the universe. Perhaps you mean something else that I do not understand (therefore I am not your equal in knowledge of what you mean).

    Reggie White was a better linebacker than you, was he not? Were you his physical equal? Are you Socrates or William of Ockham's equal in philosophical wisdom?

    Your prejudice shows. All asians are the same, all black people are the same, all white people are the same... One thing is the same, how easy it is to spot someone's prejudice against something.

    Please explain why this is wrong? Humans make things that are less complex than them (condoms and toasters), God makes things less complex than God (humans, the physical universe). Ideally, humans will eventually be able to surpass their own level of complexity in creation of a new thing.

    Nobody created God, however you can come to an understanding of God, which will answer questions you cannot answer without God.

    It only appears that way to you because you do not understand it. The first step is to acknowledge God's existence, and then top contemplate why there are wars, death, disease, etc. until you understand why things are as they are.
     
  5. Brocktoon

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    Oh Ya... I am definately liking this new Kharakov fella!

    I predict more wacky posts coming in the future hehe!
     
  6. BlackGuardXIII

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    I don't.
    (brocktoon, you may not recognize the above......it is called an answer. You should try it sometime)

    If you care to read any of my 2500 posts, not one says that any other faith is wrong, not one.
    You and I cannot have a meaningful dialogue if your sole tactic is to accuse me of things I never said. Once again, you have misquoted me. Consistently, you post claims that I have said the complete opposite of what I actually, verifiably, repeatedly Have said.
    This one dimensional approach of yours, while intriguing in its carelessness with the truth, does get old.
     
  7. Brocktoon

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    Speaking of which.. I was posing a question TO YOU when I asked:

    Better Question - Why do you insist YOUR beliefs are right and any contrary ones are wrong?


    Here.. lets move on to your next sentence which will clearly demonstrate WHY I asked YOU a question:

    Exactly!

    So, according to YOU many Faiths are FALSE.
    Or at least 'Partially Wrong'.

    YOU plainly imply that Islam is NOT the one true faith and that the parts of Islams faith insisting 'there is no other god but Allah' ARE WRONG!

    Please explain why you (blackgueard) have the truth on this and why Jesus and/or Muhammed are WRONG?

    Im accusing you of things which you directly and unmistakenly imply in your statements.

    In this case I asked you a question - you have not answered it because it 'makes you mad' or you dont 'get' it.

    You repeatedly, actually and verifiably SAY THINGS WITH ARE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE of other things you say.

    To accomodate this strange habit you enjoy doing - I reply to either of your 'Truths' - even when they contradict each other.

    :D
     
  8. BlackGuardXIII

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    So, you answered my question with no answer, just parrotted my question back. I answered it.
    You then still manage to elude answering. Its a good thing answer evasion isn't against the law.
    I can understand your refusal to allow me to believe that all faiths can be right. It won't stop me though. I still see more contradictions in your narrow, exclusivist version faith, than in my more accepting, respectful one.
     
  9. Brocktoon

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    Bullshit answer as usual from you.

    I will try again - why do YOU think your right and Allah is wrong when he says "There are no other gods but Allah"?

    Explain why you are right and Muslims are wrong?

    I dare you?
     
  10. BlackGuardXIII

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    Allah is right, brocktoon.
    It is you who wishes Allah was wrong.
     
  11. Brocktoon

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    Here again a contradiction from you BG!

    You are now insisting that two things are true:
    Allah is the ONLY god and only the Koran is the true word of Allah.

    BUT ALSO

    Jesus is the ONLY God and only the Bible is the true word of God

    Please explain how both are true?

    If possible - - please state why you think both are 'mostly true' but what parts are false?
     
  12. BlackGuardXIII

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    Explain...........again?
    I give up.
    Read the other thousand times I did so.
    you dont see the forest for the trees, brocktoon, you just cannot hear me.
    "A rose by any other name..........."
    You have read me post dozens of times how it is I am able to see both as being true, so NO, I won't explain again. My limit is 144 times, after that I just plain refuse to repeat myself.
    If you really are curious, go to my posts on file. My view on this is repeated numerous times. 144 is very conservative.
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    Just cuz you cant see both to be true doesnt mean no one else is allowed to.
    Duh.
     
  13. thumontico

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    There is no point in talking to him. Brocktoon is an irrational narcissist. He has a possibly superhuman ability to produce bullshit. This is why I believe him not to be real.
     
  14. Brocktoon

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    Giving up already.
    Wow. You two are easy.

    :p
     
  15. cabdirazzaq

    cabdirazzaq Member

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    Brocktoon has stirred up this thread like the water in ones toilet after you flush it, he may say stupid things followed up by something extremley brilliant.

    From a human point of view, daunted some may be - sense its hard to know where we have him.
     
  16. Brocktoon

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    Cabdiraz..
    You know that I think Yahweh is the one true God.

    You would say that Allah is the one true God.

    At least you are sane enough to take a stand for one Faith.

    Im going to agree with Jesus.

    But people like BlackGuard insult ALL Faiths by suggesting they are all flawed, partly wrong, errant or mistaken

    Most of the Koran is 'mostly true' EXCEPT anywhere Allah claims to be the only true way.
    'Most' of the Bible is 'true' EXCEPT anywhere Jesus claims to be the only way.
    BlackGuard agrees with Judaism EXCEPT anywhere it claims Yahweh is the One True God... then that part is false.

    All Faiths are damaged so they can be called 'All Valid'.

    [Cab.. you actually made me laugh.. that is a first for you! Its nice to see that side of you for once!!]
     
  17. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Each religion is a dance for people made by God. If someone said the only true dance was the Twist, we wouldn't have strip clubs with exotic dancers. Just because your favorite dance is the muslim or the xian doesn't mean that it is the best dance, it just means that it is what turns you on.

    The right way to look at religion is this: accept it as what it is- a creation of God's for humanity. God didn't just make chocolate ice cream.... there are a couple other flavors out there too. Although anyone who doesn't think Blue Bunny Chocolate Seduction is the best is going to hell. I like to call it the Bluebonic Chronic. There is only one true Ice Cream.
     
  18. Brocktoon

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    Kharakov.. you have the same dilema as BG13.
    In order for your belief to work - you must cause great damage to many faiths.

    You are implicitly stating that Allah is not 'truly' a God
    Yahweh is not truly a God

    At the very least - you are implying that The Koran is (partially) Corrupt and so too is the Bible. (not to mention other Faiths).

    It does not work to apply consumerism allegories or 'selections' or 'styles' to this.

    Mohammed Says there is only one true God and that is Allah.
    Allah specifically states Jesus is not God.

    So you are suggesting that Allah ALSO claims to be Yahweh and ALSO claims that Jesus is God.

    To put your 'Stripper' analogy in a better context - you are stating that one can be both naked and clothed at the same time.
     
  19. BlackGuardXIII

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    brocktoon, i do not damage or insult all faiths, or any faiths. they are much too solid for me to damage in the slightest, nor would i want to. whether called god, allah, yhvh, brahman, etc., Spirit is the same.
     
  20. BlackGuardXIII

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    i have no dilemma, toon, regardless of your wishes.
    besides your poor spelling, an addiction to insulting me, as well as an aversion to answering questions about your judgemental perspective, and honestly relaying a single quote from any i post, are what i see as your dilemmas.
     
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