Dog Breeding

Yes i understand what you mean, and i know all of these things, but one, if i get a puppy from another persons dog i buy the dog and it is mine, the only thing i dotn understand is how i would be in debt with them and have to pay them. But yes i have taken all of these things into consideration, i have been wanting to do this for a long time. I am not looking to make a living off of this but merely a hobbie, it was my fault i worded it wrong

 

But dog breeding is a full time job it is not a hobby. There a lot of work.

http://www.weatherrunweimaraners.com/

this is a site for a very good breeder. look at this and get back to me.

 

Weimeraners are one of my favorite breeds, such beautiful dogs. Yea i know that its more of a job, but i was just stating that i wasnt really in it for the money, but its something ive always wanted to do. If i do end up chosing this, it wont be for a little while longer, i want to make sure i have a stable living situation and stuff like that, as well as some other kind of income to support me wether it be my boyfriend or myself. Yes i know about all the work that goes with it there is starting and making sure you get the puppy, then obedience and showing and breeding and vet bills and all that stuff.
The site you showed me is that someone you know? And also what was it that you were saying about getting a puppy and any money you make off of that puppy you have to give a share to the parents owner?

 

Umm yea, there are reasons for breeding dogs. Certain breeds have jobs, if you will, that they are better at than others. For example, service dogs,sled dogs cannine police unit dogs, herding dogs, etc. Also, when one knows the breed of a dog, the placement of the animal is easier to do, because different breeds come with different temperments that make certain homes better than others.


With that said, I don't think just anybody should breed any dog just because they can make a couple thousand bucks every couple months. There should be a lot of time and knowledge invested about the dog/bloodlines etc.

 

yea i know exactly what you mean about all that you said. I have volunteered in shelters and know the basic care for a dog, although i am "just anyone" right now i am hoping to gain more experience in the dog area even if its just obediance training my own dog first. But i have always been interested in breeding and am hoping to become an apprentice breeder for a little to learn the ropes and all the things included in breeding from showing to training and all that stuff. I know it will be a chalenge but i will enjoy it

 

Why was this addressed to me? I am not the one that wants to breed. I gave her the link so that she can see what it takes. To me most people shouldn't breed dogs.

 

I still don't think you really understand. All the puppies on that sight are from dogs that the breeder no longer cares for. But because the parents came from that breeder the puppies are owned in part by the origional breeder. That is how the dog world goes. It's a simple fact.

 

Oh ok well i understand, but i dont think that its completely true, ill try to get more information on it just to check for myself no offense or anything. I do understand what it takes, but just because some breeders give away their dogs doesnt mean i do, and i dont even know how long i would be a breeder if at all. Everyone goes through heartaches with pets, i can handle it.

 

The breeder didn't give the dogs away he sold them so they live with other people. But then the dogs that he sold are breed he either gets pick of the litter of the puppies or a portion on the money that is made from selling the puppies. That is just how it's done.

I think you are being a little close minded about this because you want to believe that it is something that is going to be easy and fun. Try calling a good breeder or a head of a dog club in your area. Check out the ACK or the CKC websites. You will learn a lot more from taking to a real breeder that will be blunt and honest with you about what it takes. IT takes A LOT of money to be breeder and most people do it because they love the breed not because they want to be a dog breeder.

 

I dont think that i am being closed minded at all, if anything i am being underestimated by you. You dont know much about me accept what i have written, you dont know my income, or my business plan or anything. Yes i do think it will be fun, because it is something i have always been interested in and wanted to do, and i think it will challenging as well. I want to breed Australian shepherds because i do love the breed. But honestly the thought of it being easy never even crossed my mind. That is why i am starting with my information now, i dont plan to start for a good while, and will be far more experienced when i do start. I have been contacting breeders but honestly the forum thing was one of my first steps in finding my knowledge of being a good breeder. I really do like your advice but it almost sounds like your trying to talk me out of it, or discourage me from it. Im sorry but this is something i am determined to do.

 

Sorry, but thats like saying "one more person who beats and murders dogs wont hurt"...EXTREME comparison, you say? Not at all. This is a negative impact on the planet, you KNOW that it is and so cant claim ignorance...it will affect hundreds, maybe thousands of lives, dog lives and human lives. Dogs who could have been resuced will be left out in the cold, or "euthanised". YOUR dogs may be given to animal abusers, or bred even further to produce EVEN MORE unnecessary consumers

It IS about the bigger picture, for Gods sake, so many animals (human and non-human) are in trouble, dont add to it

 

Have you had shepherds before? They are the best dogs I grew up with them. I am not trying to talk you out of it. I just know alot of people who thought like you do and got themselves in alot fo trouble because no matter what anyone told them they did what they wanted. The dogs taken away from one person that I know of.

 

I would suggest visiting your local humane society or animal shelter before you make a final decision on bringing any more dogs into this world. I volunteer at our local shelter where they have many pure breed dogs and it has always made me wonder why someone would breed dogs when there are so many of them without good homes. The worst part is to look into their eyes and know that they have no idea what they did to end up in a shelter, yet a bath and brushing along with playing outside on some grass does wonders for their spirits.

In California, the state legislature is currently working on a spay/neuter bill that will require all dogs four months or older to be altered and it will also outlaw all hobby breeding while professional breeders will be strictly monitored. I hope it passes and becomes law, since it will save many lives, eliminate needless suffering and mean a change in thinking not only in California, but the rest of the United States and someday the world as a whole.

 

Wow, you guys are assholes. She asked a simple question you know, and you put her on a damn stake. What have you guys done to help with this problem? Adopted an animal, volunteered? Oh yay, like millions haven't. Before you criticize her for what she'd like to do, and how it's so going to hurt the animal and human world alike, contribute to it's aid then.

She needs someone on her side, and I'm the one who knows her best, especially on here.

Toby Stanley- Sorry if you didn't read anything she said at all, but she volunteered at an animal shelter, here's a little tidbit you didn't know. She got fired from there, for getting a lost dog back to it's rightful owner, when they sold the dog to people before waiting the initial time to see if there were any owners. Hmmm, guess shelters can be assholes too eh? Peachybabie and I go to school together, and we are both part of a school program called Youth in Philanthropy, for about 3 years, and every year we donate about $1000 to a no-kill animal shelter. We do the visits to the shelter, we listen to what they are needing, we listen to the horrible stories they tell us about some of their animals there. Peachybabie is even going to volunteer at another animal shelter next year, with a mentor of her's.

Before you say oh boohoo, what's $1000 going to do. It's money from our program, and every damn cent helps, especially when other groups are giving to the humane society who is government funded. So don't even bring up the whole animal shelter crap again.

verseau_miracle- You guys judge without knowing her, I thought this was a hippy website? We've talked about her having something to do with animals later in her life, sorry if she used the word 'career', she meant it in not a cash resource. She loves animals, and would not sell her dogs without meeting the potential owners. We even talked about running a small rescue out of our home when it happens, later on since we're still in school. And I don't want to hear anything about money costs, we've thought about it, and when a girl dreams, in how much money say raising a family, or getting married or traveling in their minds really? Hell no.

I don't have much else to say, maybe you guys are the ones with some ignorance?

 

If a person is going to post on public forum they will get feed back good and bad. No need to jump on any ones case for having an opinion.

And to me an in home shelter is a much better idea than a breeding program.

 

Im all for not judging. However, i hear a person wants to breed dogs and make a "career" of it when i know how many are mistreated, unwanted, stary, all that stuff. THEY ARE THE ONLY FACTS I NEED TO KNOW in this case. I dont NEED to know what your friend is like as a person. I already said, im sure shes just a great person. Its not a personal attack on her. Its a big word of warning about her choices and ideas. Im informing her of the TRUTH, which in this case needs to be given, for the dogs sakes

I dont care how much she donates or whatever, that doesnt make it right. And by the way, i HAVE adopted 5 animals from a shelter, which is the most our little flat can currently house humanely

Also, a shelter? She did NOT say ANYTHING about a shelter...she talked about breeding dogs. I therefore, rightly, informed her the world doesnt need any more. End of

 

Oh, and if shes working at shelters, why cant she see how many are already unwanted, and therefore that no more are needed?

 

Umm ya, you're alright, and I totally understand the whole it's a public board and everyone has their own opinions yadda yadda. But no one gave her any good feed back, and everyone jumped on her case. So I'm just defending her, not that she can't do it herself, I'm just more of the smart ass.

verseau_miracle - as I said, she missused the word career, now slow down before you type, or else it comes out as an angry rant, and you're trying to prove a point right? Peachybabie is my girlfriend, so you know, if she's upset because people are ganging up on her, and criticizing her passion for animals, I'm going to defend her. And my truth is she wouldn't let that happen to the animals she cares for. So you adopted animals, many people do. In the end you're not making a huge difference, or so I see.

She said nothing about a shelter, because the question at hand was about breeding. The world doesn't need anymore people, but that still happens, as long as they are being taken care of. Plus, how much can one person do? She can't take all the pets home with her, as much as I know she'd want to.

 

I gave he feed back lots of it.

 

I dont need to slow down, but thanx. Actually much thought and reason goes into my words, and i am not by nature an angry person

Im tired of arguing my very valid point with you, youre going to defend the girl and shes not going to give in, so fine. Ive said my piece, no more i can say here