does god still love me?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Picas Dixon, Jun 1, 2008.

  1. sethm13

    sethm13 Member

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    God never say's that gay's aren't allowed. He does say that homosexuality is a sin, however, everyone sins, and no sin is any worse then another. So no, I wouldn't go as far as saying that God hates you. That might be a little radical.
     
  2. Picas Dixon

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    I've come to believe that it's not god who hates and judges people, but his so called "diciples" who try to ridicule everyone who's different, even though their holy book encourages to love everyone and have compassion...

    makes sense, yeh?
     
  3. Itsdarts

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    OMG you people scare me.....
    Evidence for the bolded part please.

    Wrong, if you believe the bible, homosexuality is described as an abomination, detestable. No other sin is given this status, not even murder. AS for there being sins greater, there is one for which you can NOT be forgiven for, and thats blasphemey of the holy spirit, or more technically, not believing in Christ.
     
  4. Picas Dixon

    Picas Dixon Member

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    humph the evidence is there... just have to look for it my friend :)
     
  5. Itsdarts

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    Pure conjecture on your part until you can provide it. You made the claim, support it, afterall this is a debate site, right? And if and when you do provide evidence, please be sure to tell the author of your evidence to go to this website and enter the million dollar challenge, I'm POSITIVE that this is something that will make world headlines, yet to date, I haven't heard a word.... Pffffft like I said, conjecture.
     
  6. Picas Dixon

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    Alright... you win there's no documented evidence, and yet.. i wonder how all these mediums and phsycic (spelling?) can be so accurate with their interpretations about friends and family LONG GONE... and with haunted places how can mediums be so accurate about the events that took place there. C'mon, how CAN'T there be spirits?
     
  7. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    Well, mainly because they aren't. Mediums are mostly con men/women or delusional. They say incredibly vague things, which, as their clients are in an incredibly vulnerable and susceptible are interpreted as what the client wants to hear.
     
  8. Itsdarts

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    Ever hear of Cold Reading? Warm Reading? Psychics are a scam, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Not to mention Television puts on all kind of crap that people believe because its lucrative. However, we're still waiting on this evidence you claimed. And lets not forget James Randi Education Foundation, they are waiting for the first person to provide honest, true evidence of paranomal phenonena so they can give away 1 million dollars. Talk show hosts like Oprah, Montel, Maury, etc... all have psychics come on because of all the freakin house wives who have nothing better to do than watch this crap. Then because they view these hosts as authoratative, then it must be true, I saw it on Oprah! How CAN there be spirits? How can thought exist without a brain? Until you can answer these questions (with evidence of course) there is no reason to believe it.

    Next you might say "personal experience" tells me I saw spirits or I felt something. This is whats called anecdotal evidence which is something that can't be verified, can't be tested, rarely if ever repeated by a different group of people. Anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence and is rejected in science, or at least should be. Wanting something to be true doesn't make it so.
     
  9. Picas Dixon

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    it's a shame really... that most of mediums and such are cons because there was some that were real
     
  10. Itsdarts

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    Like Who? Silvia Brown? Eurri Geller(sp?)? I won't deny that some people have better intuition than others, but this isn't being a psychic, its being intuative.
     
  11. Picas Dixon

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    you're entitled to your opinion. But demanding for evidence isn't going to make them any less real.
     
  12. Itsdarts

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    Possibly not, but without it, I have no reason to take your word for it. It's like saying Balls fall sideways when dropped from a tall building. WIthout evidence, I have no reason to believe it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I’ve never really understood all this; God hates homosexuals, I’m gay so God hates me, stuff.

    Let’s think about this for a minute. If God made man like the Bible says, wouldn’t he know what is good for man to do or not to do? God would obviously know what man could do (homosexuality) but he may know that it’s not good for man to do so. In that case, wouldn’t it then seem loving on God’s part to tell mankind not to do that. Yet people say God hates me because he won’t let me be a homosexual.

    To me it’s a little like a Father, out love and concern, telling his child don’t put your hand on the hot stove and when the Father leaves, the child says, he only told me that because he hates me and is depriving me of some thing good. Then after getting burnt, the child saying; see how much Father really hates me, if he really loved me he wouldn’t have let the stove burn me! When the Father returns he may be very upset with the child because if the child had listened to the Father the child would not have had to suffer the pain and scarring of the burn but no matter how upset the father may be he does not stop loving the child.
     
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    God dont care about nothing! your all equal as grains of sand and are all the same and dont mean shit...

    You dont need for God to love you ...

    You just need to love GOD...
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    This very well may be true but it's not what the Bible says.
     
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    If a tree gets hit by lightining will it think of God any differently.. Why me lord do I not stand upright and worship you day and even night.. When the tree over there is sagging to the ground.. Do I not deserver your love and protection more?
    NO. God says for nothing matters any differently.
    The spirit of God lies within us. Love yourself and others and GOD will LOVE YOU.
    The tree bending to the ground was praying btw.. They other tree was to buzy with his own love for GOD not to include how others love GOD..
     
  17. J0hn

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    God gave man freewill. Therefore, God gave us the choice to choose which path we go down.
     
  18. Alter-Reality

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    I hate the analogy that we're all naughty little children, and when we're "bad", we get punished. "God" is an omnipitent force present in everything. "Goddess" doesn't have any problem with homosexuals or homosexual behaivor. "God" loves and accepts all. "Goddess" knows that there is nothing wrong with homosexuals. "God" even goes to Gay Pride Parades!
    Love in ALL forms is beautiful. Even when a man loves a man, a woman loves a woman. And there is NOTHING wrong with two, three, or more people of any race, gender, etc. to love one another.
     
  19. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    and remember, once again, that a perfectly good set up is EASILY ruined by people with problems looking to solidify their position and power.
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm sorry Alter-Reality but I don't see where my analogy at any time implied that; "we're all naughty little children, and when we're "bad", we get punished."

    My analogy simply is a comparison of God to a Father and his child, to show that even if a child is disobedient, that a father does not hate his child because the child is disobedient. Children are not all disobedient but in my analogy the child was and even then the child was not punished for his disobedience by the Father, although the child did suffer it was not punishment but the consequences of his own actions.

    People too often assume that God (being hateful, needy and power hungry) makes up arbitrary rules for man to live by. But what I'm trying to point out is that God knows mankind better than we will ever know ourselves and thus knows what will harm us better than we know. So God, out of love for his children, tells them what is good and bad for them. When a child chooses to do bad, yes, it is upsetting to God to see his children go through unnecessary pain and suffering but he DOES NOT hate the child.
     

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