Does God Exist?

Sad thing is... the essential message in that post gets lost (or probably ignored) after every 2 or 3 pages It is not the first time it's pointed out in this thread.

 

this may answerer Question and give us many more questions,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=554zSksLNEM"]Scientists Discovered Message from God in Human DNA Code! - YouTube

 

Well I guess that settles it, doesn't it? Harvard scientists, we're told, have found a message from God encrypted in human DNA, in Aramaic, no less: "Hello my children..., etc." And we heard it on YouTube, so it must be true. I also understand some scientists at MIT found remains of an ancient unicorn that apparently never made it onto the Ark. I read that in a tabloid, right above the story of a woman who gave birth to a two-headed ostrich. So all you atheists and agnostics, aren't you convinced? If you are, I have some real estate in a bayou I'd like to talk to you about.


For another point of view, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TUSjVJogQU"]DNA Message from God - is a Hoax - 2014 - YouTube

Warning: there's a religious message at the end, which I don't mean to endorse.

 

thedope:

God? Is that you? lol

Only 'useful purpose'! LOL! You crack me up your correctfulness. :-D

Exactly! It's as though you understand! To have a god such as yourself who appears to understand. It's a muthafucking blessing I tells ya. :-D

We'll just pretend you didn't say this and we're all god... er... good... um... ourselves at any rate.

I can't help that you don't think we create ourselves.

Which is no less physical for the fact.

It's so humble it's unaware it's ground. Everything is unique, you intellectual eunuch! I mean, for what is all 'ready', your high, great, and justly vaunted jauntiness? :-D

 

Correct, I do. But liking music doesn't mean I have the ability to *create* music.

They were your words, not mine. You said,

Sorry to disappoint you.

 

We're all co-creators with oneanother. And should you want to find the highest of us, there's no harm in it.

Not at all, so long as you're not disappointed. Everything else we might be is just icing on the cake of being ourselves. :-D

 

Correct.

Correct!

What does science do? Nothing, scientists do stuff. What do scientists do? They test and experiment right? I do the very same thing.

There's this thing called prayer. So I test it out and I pray. Scientists experiment and I experience. The result is knowledge. And then I Testify. This is "scientific" and, it is judicious.


knowledge
noun
understanding, sense, intelligence, judgment, perception, awareness, insight, grasp, appreciation, penetration, comprehension, discernment

judicious
adjective
sensible, considered, reasonable, discerning, sound, politic, acute, informed, diplomatic, careful, wise, cautious, rational, sober, discriminating, thoughtful, discreet, sage, enlightened, shrewd, prudent, sane, skilful, astute, expedient, circumspect, well-advised, well-judged, sagacious, sapient

prayer - the act of communicating with a deity (especially as a petition or in adoration or contrition or thanksgiving)

hatred is a blinder, and prejudice is an obstruction and a barrier to learning.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention .. there's no such thing as mathological! haha, hilarious!

 

That's a great starting point for a discussion on human behavior.

 

Prayer is nothing more than being lazy; it's closing one's eyes and mumbling nonsense to an imaginary friend because one cannot be bothered to be proactive.

 

thedope insists prayer is 'concentration', and not constipation, but then he also wants us to believe god exists for us because it exists for himself and others. What more to expect from a man who thinks all being is mine when it's really all of ours? ;-D

 

Maybe it is if you don't have use for it or can't add meaning to it. So to you it might be like that. This does not mean it is the same for everybody else.

It is also projection that people do it solely or mainly because they can't be bothered to be proactive. It could be very well so that it's the same kind of projection certain religious fundamentalists use to stigmatize homosexuals as being evil simply because of their sexuality: projection out of ignorance and dislike.
Hey, you don't have to like prayer at all. But to come in a thread like this and say something silly and denigrating as you repeatedly are doing serves no constructive purpose at all. Just saying.

 

What about praying in tongues?

it occurs, is genuine, are real languages, and is not something that can be ascertained to be sourced solely from the individual.

The first points have been investigated many times, the last point is my personal impression while "praying in tongues".


People can argue semantics, politics and history all you want for as long as you want but you are still missing the point and are way off base.
How do you atheist who believe in no "God" or similar entity account for the "supernatural" events and just simple power involved?

The message of the New Testament at least is one of life altering power through God, not semantics and niggly little bullshit about intricate word meanings and crap, it's about the power of God.

If you have not personally experienced this type of thing, literally knock you on your ass, leave you in a daze and clear headed as ever type of encounter with the "Holy Spirit", you don't know what you are talking about.

It's like a virgin trying to explain what sex feels like.

I have personally experienced/practice glossolalia (speaking in tongues) and still do to this day, have seen real "miracle" healing medically confirmed, have personally had very specific "words of wisdom" for certain people that I barely knew, etc., etc. etc.

Until you can convince me that my completely sober experiences in this regard over the last 30+ years are all bullshit and myth, or better yet experience it for yourself, I say you have absolutely know clue what you are talking about.
That also applies to some here who defend Christianity as well


Call me a nutbag or whatever, but I feel I have been here long enough and have provided ample evidence that I am not a clueless moron but rather educated and knowledgeable as well as very experienced with altered states, natural and drug induced, that I would hope lends some credence to what I have said.

 

i am a friend to people who pray in tongues . i'll note it is not
exclusively a Christian way of language , and that it exemplifies
an honesty of feeling - the mind is one with the heart . it is
like very excellent jazz , free and naturalistic . it's that kind of
fact .

 

Who are you speaking to?

Laughter is yes and no in the same place but I don't know in what proportions and I didn't mean to dissemble you only the barriers you erect to perception. If we find your stitches to be mended at some point could you tell us of your correct apprehension of error?

I am ever grateful, you seem surprised.

You mind your own tongue.

You've only met but a small portion of the selves you are.

So the part can't define the whole after all. What is the same is the same but what is different is different and not the same, a place and time for your every, uniqueness!

 

Sometimes referred to as cursing when you don't realize it's your blessing.

 

They are emotionally titillating statements that substitute for reason. You ask why, because they are all fired up by their own rhetoric. Fuckin A!

 

You, your forgetfulness. Are you god, or not?

lol Concentrate on the erection of your harmless edifice by all means, but please don't make me have to look, your stiffness.

And what I seem to you, surprises you? Your vainly calling me vain for instance, why not try invoking something more befitting me your resembledness! Hilarity will take care of what you can't! :-D

What if I don't? At least not with anothers tongue in mind? What if I let it hang loose farl kess nuel wern tun.

We may all be ourselves, but we're not eachother, great one.

No. All parts do. What part is not the very same part it happens to be? Understand inherency! That's a command! LOL

 

It depends on what the prayer is for and how it's done. Prayers can be beneficial as affirmations that help focus attention on basic aspects of reality, or reinforce positive attitudes, much like New Year's resolutions. A good example would be the serenity prayer, highlighting the resolve for serenity, courage, and wisdom in coping with different challenges, some of which can't be changed and some of which can. If one is simply "mumbling nonsense", I think it's meaningless, except possibly as a mantra to accompany meditation. But then again, there is the "speaking in tongues" that NG mentions--a charismatic outpouring of intense emotion. It's unintelligible, but I wouldn't characterize it as "simply mumbling". Participants are fired up and ready for action!

I'm curious. What was your religious background? Catholics and Episcopalians tend to use scripted prayers, and when they're said in a group, I have the suspicion that a good many people don't know what it is they're saying--so busy are they in keeping up with the group and getting the words straight. The benefits are those of group ritual--bonding and expressing positive sentiment.

 

Do I exist for you?

I have been a more proficient fornicator fucking than fuck up and understanding that you don't want to be part of my sex life I was wondering if you found your relationship with fucking up as satisfying as fucking.

No.

It gets away from everyone!

Encouragement for yourself anyway. If everything is unique then there is no part that satisfies for everything's uniqueness.