When I asked a chinese person here at the chinese new year what year it was in china he could not tell me. So... it may depend which chinese we're talking about :mickey: Also, there are over 20 million christians in China, so I reckon it is also true for alot of those
ginalee: I've never met her. I don't buy that we're gods or devils if that's what you mean. :-D Asmodean: Direct me to his words you find hateful, or, like Okie, maybe you should shut your hole? lol ;-D thedope: We all create ourselves but not before being created by others. You think our standing in relationship to all else means we don't create ourselves, which only means you'll have to get over your 'special' meaning for creation. ;-D I won't insist you're anything you don't want to be. Everything is what it is without its being called god. Your god is yours alone. Share it by all means. Pushing it will get you and it nowhere. We're all our own good. It is divine to find we're eachothers also. An alliance? Sides?! lol I'm said I'm with the atheists. I 'qualify' as one, having no belief in god. If I am with the theists, they've yet to let me know! LOL! Well, creation is law without opposite, you've got that much right! :-D I'm someone who loves us. :-D And so our invocation continues. A memory you can't quite recall then?! lol Straighten up! Don't let experience lay you out! You know how I am with figures of speech thedope. I demand too much from them. What exactly becomes Maya? So you mean giving and receiving are identical to everyone. And yet everyone is not identical. Something is awry in your 'levelling'. It says different things to different people, I've heard. It is neither necessarily, but desire made vocal in any case. lol If you really felt the inquiry to be an inquisition I hope your answer has relieved you! We? My not having a god doesn't need soothing. I do find free speech refreshing though. ;-D I said 'as though' committed. Unless you're ascribing an authority for yourself to my ears, I wouldn't, were I you, worry over what's clear to me. I don't want to put anyone away. :-D
lol Keep working it out kids! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBKb_nYCyvU"]Smokey Joe - Friday Night - YouTube
I have. Why don't you think there's a devil in you? HELP, the devil's in my car! haha. It's a B52's song. Do you think this guy is singing the truth? How much do you think this song was worth to him in the pocket? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv_zJrO_ptk"]INXS - Devil Inside - YouTube
ginalee: If there was a devil inside me I'm sure he'd be far too devilish not to have let me know by now. As for a god in me, I reckon he'd have at least let everyone else know. :-D I'm sure Michael Hutchence made a packet off that song. You must be at least as old as me. From the same year, this one goes out to thedope! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU"]Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - YouTube edit: apparently a few years earlier! Anyway, it was '88 for me.
So you know no devils, no gods .. but do you know Angels?! :sunny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXQYLjoQGdw"]All Angels - Songbird - YouTube
My wife died on 9/11 but it wasn't that day. Sept 11, 2015 is not that day either. It is not what happened on that day that makes that brings it to memory but the way you are applying your attention. There is nothing significant in death or mass casualty or hostility to point of violence which occur unabated daily. What is it you think I know? The perception of 9/11 as a historical watershed is purely cultural artifice.
I can't wipe September 11, 2001 out of your memory or anybody else's. I apply my memory to Betty Ong, who was my neighbor. My sorrow for your loss, thedope.
We express ourselves and our creations are our vibratory arrangements in real time. Being has no horizon for fulfillment. An enduring quality must be cultivated and it is the world models we share that allow for cooperation. The thought comes first as before you were even conceived physically your potential arose in attraction. And you are what you are without being called Dejavu. We choose to call you Dejavu as a matter of convenience of association, so that we can match personality with a commonly recognized symbol. You simply have a phono phobia around the word god. As you suggest; It is divine... of or pertaining to a god, especially the Supreme Being. addressed, appropriated, or devoted to God or a god; religious; sacred: divine worship. proceeding from God or a god: divine laws. godlike; characteristic of or befitting a deity: divine magnanimity. heavenly; celestial: the divine kingdom. You've made a symbolic association with atheists that relies only on the concept of god. The I am I call myself is the same I am you call yourself and we tell the difference through a peculiar name in association with physical stature. Our thoughts are shared. You are my reflection then? Maya is a word symbol for the illusion of being as you claim you are specifically one thing or another. The physical tonal quality of the words I am and the word symbol Maya are identical without the order of the letters to inform. You can perform the physical speech exercise I described and you can hear how the words I am and maya resonate with one another. Everyone is identical in power to create and there are no idle thoughts. What is not level is the degree of choosing or measure of specific attention. Your creations are never apart from you having no life apart from you except as our thoughts are shared or cultivated together, although you surely do not recognize them if you've imagined yourself a victim. hearsay Follow the money for verification. You are sore with my words, not the other way round. It is me not having a god or proper proportions on authority you are concerned with claiming to teach me straight speech while using the same word as definition, the word you are attempting to define. Just pointing out that knowledge is being shared.
Nor recall any event in a visceral way for me save I choose to associate. Having and being are the same. I prefer joy to your sorrow thank you so you are free to ease your mind.
I believe God is entirely real. I believe religion is a misrepresentation of God used for petty human political power struggles. I want an atheist to answer me this. Tribes, civilizations, settlements, all these different types of people from all over the world, before they had any contact with one other, found spiritualism. How could that be possible? I don't mean to be rude, but atheism has always seemed rude to me, you can't even consider something outside yourself?
I can relate, but on itself atheism doesn't seem rude to me. If you just happen to have that belief, then it is no different in rudeness than the basic belief in a deity. I guess it is how you carry your beliefs out or how you tolerate other peoples beliefs that defines how rude a person is (wether theist or atheist) in this regard.
Oh I guess I do see how that could be interrupted that way. I don't hate on anyone for their beliefs or lack thereof. I really think the only good you can expect from the world, is that what you put in. Preaching is much different than the act itself. But I think there comes a line when atheists boast about denying God virtually daily. I've seen it with roommates, and many other people. And I find it terribly ignorant. Not to say people trying to wave Jesus in your face isn't as well, but I don't understand why we as people can't just accept that nobody knows. Why is there this huge facade of being the correct thinker? You don't know shit friend, you're a speck of dust to the cosmos