Does God Exist?

The problem with this question, is that the belief in God and the religious practices which require faith, are states of mind which are not based on personal experience but rather a hope that an experience will occur, preferably after death.
Psychedelics are something which can not really be discussed in this manner because they are everything and effect everybody in unique ways.
I have to say, that due to my numerous experiences with psychedelics, intense living situations in my youth, and my entirely altered state of sober consciousness, that I can no longer have any doubt that this manifested universe came into being on it's own and is without a permeating sense of awareness. Whatever God is I can not say, I dont feel that I have the right nor the ability to attribute anything to it other than the obvious, creation, sustainment, and destruction.
I think God is beyond love, beyond all emotional qualities, and is without judgement regarding our species (or any, for that matter). I dont believe that we have souls because I have never experienced anything which would lead me to that opinion, I have only read about souls in books. I dont believe there is any form of afterlife, no reincarnation, no heaven and/or hell, no living as one with God for eternity etc.
I think God is balanced entirely, is the source of balance, and heaven and hell are just extensions of our own fear and inability to collectively take responsibility for our actions right now.
Jesus himself even said the Kingdom is within you. Not, the kingdom is coming to you, not the kingdom is beyond the clouds, and not dying to find the kingdom (at least not in a physical sense). You have the right and the capability to see this life as a blessing and you can chose to either live in total harmony with it no matter what your situation, or you can be against it. Either way, you contribute to the balance and really it doesnt matter.
To think a deity would give a flying shit about a species which lives on a rock several thousand light years from the middle of a galaxy, in which there are probably millions of other life forms, manipulating spacetime amongst millions and millions of other galaxies, is not only pathetically laughable but it's also quite arrogant.

 

But on that same point, to think this universe was not created is, quite honestly, ignorant and self serving opinion that has no basis in reality. To think that when the Big Bang happened, that EVERY fucking thing in this universe came into being instantly and spacetime expanded outwards, and that 'everything' including light has taken an estimated 13+ billion years to catch up with, revealing that we are still expanding insanley rapidly with no end in sight, should be enough to humble any human being.
I've seen the universe go backwards into Spirit and Bang right back out again during an intense and painful magic mushroom experience, and though this is just a subjective experience that occured within my own mind, what I saw was that when existence came into manifestation, there was first a blossoming force of light which laid a programmed foundation with which reality can materialize into.
That is the nature of reality which can not be measured, all we have left is the background microwave radiation to trace the steps, that which the Hindu's and Buddhist's call Om.

 

relayer, you are officially a person i would love to trip with.

id totally have much fun conversing

 

The feeling is mutual! :cheers2:

 

Man made god out of ignorance and fear, if god made man why the hell would he put us here?

 

Yes, and this is why the word God is so difficult. Just like the word Spirit, Soul and Reality. They mean different things to everyone.

 

1. You have this idea that humans only believe in a god out of fear of the earth and god himself striking us down. I don't know about your god, or what god is really, but I see god as something as love and knowledge. God IS existence, it's like the most gigantic encyclopedia of knowledge in the universe

2. And wouldn't an all powerful god as is the case with almost any god be able to create a plane of existence and universe that can take after itself, god and evolution go hand in hand

 

God is my palm pilot

 

I have faith

 

no.

 

you gotta have faaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiith!!!!

 

to be honest im undecided, not as to what God is but just as to how much i believe and how exactly i interpret it. I do however think that the energy of a person when they die doesnt just simply cease to exist. Energy cant dissapear once its there, whether it filters back into life or into the earth i dont know but i dont think its just gone.
Relayer, every post i read of yours is always so full of wisdom, out of all the people iv met on the hip forums i think your the one id most like to trip and talk with :cheers2:.
Getting back to God though, to think theres a big man sitting up in the clouds looking over us and deciding who gets to go to hell or heaven by the path they choose in life is absurd to me. However sometimes i have felt such an overbearing sense of love and connectivity to life and the earth that its really made me contemplate whats inside of me to bring on these feelings.
Im still young though and i dont think it will become clear to me for a long time, thats ok though. I have many years to figure things out and come to my own understanding, till then i'll just enjoy life as it is

 

I enjoyed your posts Relayer. I am on the same page that I believe "God" exists in that I believe there was some source behind our creation, but I do not believe in religion. I've always thought of God as just a massive source of energy, not something that casts judgements or has emotions such as love and anger.

When a religious person such as a Christian spends so much of their life thinking about the life they will lead after their death, they are wasting time with the life God has already gave them. They don't see it this way obviously, but it's funny how a lot of Christians seem to think its weird that I don't care what happens after I die or even ever think about it. The other day this came up in conversation with one of my friends who has always been a real devout Christian. My views seemed to really bother him, I guess because it was so foreign to how he lives his life. I mean, I would like not to go to a place like hell, haha, but I know who I am spiritually and I know it will never change. So if it's going to happen, hey, it's going to happen. But I have a feeling there is neither a heaven or a hell.

 

this is one of the reasons im a non believer.
you have no soul, its just an illusions humans have in their brains which isn't going to continue on after brain activity stops or your dead.
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this is one of the reasons im a non believer.
you have no soul, its just an illusions humans have in their brains which isn't going to continue on after brain activity stops or your dead.
plus i think it's stupid how religions basicallly have people pinned into it with this fear of 'hell' and the afterlife business seems to be a way humans try to cope with the fear of death. im not going to be able to experience pain after i die and im not really worried about dying. we all have to do it and its just going to be like time before you were conceived.

although that kind of paridise would be something amazing to experience wouldnt it?

 

yea, i mean i WISH it were true. if i could decide which religon is the correct one, i would pick Judaism. no hell, just heaven for everyone. the concept of heaven is very interesting to me, and sometimes i get carried away with the though before snap back to reality and realize is just ludicrous