does god exist?

Discussion in 'The Hip Polls' started by smackjack, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    yes, I have perceived God and as I've mentioned before his existence is from everlasting to everlasting.
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Or it could be that we are all a product of God's mind. ;)
     
  3. Stabby

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    All right well I can't call you a liar so I'll leave it at that. Perhaps you do have a really good reason for believing in God, but most religious people don't and believe completely out of blind faith.
     
  4. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I call em' Baby Christians
     
  5. Renire

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    I don't believe in God because if there was one, he would make decent choices. For example, people or animals that are in pain and suffering wouldn't be.
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  6. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    This would be a universe where god actively and constantly interfered with reality, this universe would not work. Why should any of us have to go through the pain of hunger and toil of work when god can just make food and huge houses appear for us?
     
  7. Lolli

    Lolli Visitor

    "big bang" may be correct, but if it is God did it!!! :p
     
  8. happydude_60

    happydude_60 Senior Member

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    Yes, I believe in God. I may not be the perfect Christian, but I'm a believer. Also, the matter that makes up the universe has to have been created by something.
     
  9. Stabby

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    And that something has to be a conscious being called god, and also specifically your Christian god, right? I call non sequitur. That "thing" doesn't have to be thinking, it could be non-conscious. It would also have to either be created by something else or be eternal, if the former, it isn't the creator of everything, if the latter then why can't the universe itself and all its matter be eternal? If the former, why not odin or zeus or fucking vishnu? Why the Christian god? But how do you come to any conclusion at all?

    Honestly, the cosmological argument is flawed and stupid. Its proponents are either willfully ignorant or just regular ignorant.

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  10. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

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    Of course not. How else do you explain the existence of Pot Noodles?
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Why can't the universe itself and all its matter be eternal?
    I guess it could but at this point almost all scientists believe that the Universe had a beginning. :toetap05:
     
  12. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    god only exists in the heads of the believers. if god existed, there would be some kind of scientific proof (keeping in mind science is unbiased).
    reading the bible is stupid in terms of knowing if god exists or not. You are doing the opposite of believing in a divinity by taking in such a specific way as the bible leads to.
    and quite frankly, the first testament doesn't have pure angelic humanity, which it should have since it's the word of god. and if you'd say the word of god has been altered in the book by the saints, well then that's self-explanatory. why would you give your devotion to it?
    Besides that, there's been no sign of or from god. The only thing leading to a belief in god besides want, is...um.. the superstition of large coincidence. And if it's from want, people should know that that's just a personal thing
     
  13. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    "No agnostic ever burned anyone at the stake or tortured a pagan, a heretic, or an unbeliever." Daniel J. Boorstin

    Hmmmm???? Not sure which way Boorsion,s thoughts points to
    interesting though...
     
  14. Stabby

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    That something can come from nothing is logically impossible. If the big bang theory is to be coherent it can't be *blamo!* stuff exist whereas before it didn't. It has to be describing the creation of our universe as we know it, with stars and planets and gangsta rappers, etc. The shift of matter from one form to another; consistent with the law of conservation of matter. I haven't researched the big bang theory in detail but I assume that's what is meant, otherwise all those scientists should take a reality check.

    Whether the big bang was caused by a volitional god or by non volitional forces is a mystery, but either the god or the forces would have had to be existing. I think the confusion lies in the interchangeable manner some people use "universe" and "existence".
     
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  16. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Let's see mmmm ..... I think I'll choose God. :D
     
  17. Stabby

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    You say that you have personally met God and it was without a doubt God and not a manifestation of your own psyche so I would say that's a good choice. Consistent with Empiricism and everything!

    If only all Christians were so rational. There would be few Christians.
     
  18. The Earth

    The Earth Om Tare Tutare Ture Svaha

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    not only does god exist, god is existance. In the now moment.
     
  19. Stabby

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    Not only does god exist, god is my guinea pig. In her wooden hut in the corner.
     
  20. Mellow Yellow

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    I am not a religious person, but apparently my standard of moral conduct is above a majority of those who are. Not that I'm knocking religion, it has it's merits, but my god does not forgive peoples' sins because they pray, go to church, or confession. My god recognizes people based on their actions, not words.
     

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