Does democracy work?

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Does democracy work?

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  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    If it's actually a democracy.....
     
  2. Rutz

    Rutz The Farming Communist

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    Somehow it seems like a shallow victory that the 'no' camp is ahead in the polls...
     
  3. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    As in

    "NO food for you"

    "NO pay for you"

    "NO healthcare"

    "NO......"


    I think you get my drift, We are doomed
     
  4. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    The only way Democracies can work is when there are a number of them united under a central government with limited powers. Then and only then are the people provided choices of where they can live freely and be governed with their consent.
     
  5. themnax

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    i think this gets back to has it really ever been tried. where people are allowed to make significant input on issues they are interested enough in to keep themselves informed on, instead of just being beauty contests between people we know little or nothing really about.
     
  6. xmas

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    10 more idiots lol
     
  7. xmas

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    The problem is that we live in a Capitalist Plutocracy in America. There-for many of us have never experienced true Democracy.
     
  8. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    Democracy works well when 100% are in agreement, but tends to fall apart when issues of choice which indirectly affect one another arise presenting disagreement.
     
  9. Cranes3

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    democracy - does it work? It is the wrong question. I think democracy rewards those who participate, not just vote. Corporations have political plans and lobby like hell....these are the people who politicians hear from. If we think it does not work, maybe we should participate. Visit your legislators and representatives, write letters, join groups and be informed. Be involved.
     
  10. Individual

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    An even better question, in my opinion, would be "Does an omnipotent democratically elected central government work better in providing individuals with the freedom to exercise choices than does decentralized government except in the areas where the people have expressly given power to the central government by a super majority under a democratic process?"
     
  11. rjhangover

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    Republicans try to force democracy on other countries, but they say that America isn't one. They say that the U.S. is a "representative republic". That's why they created the "electoral college", it's the only way they can win an election, because they're not the majority. Democracy is a farce in America.
     
  12. Eztimers

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    As a kid in school, we pledged alligence to a republic....not to a democracy.
    Democracy = mob rule, rich begets rich.
    Republic = upholding the rights of it citizens first and foremost.

    My how things change.
     
  13. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    Forcing kids to make that pledge is more like fascism than freedom.
     
  14. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

    No one is or can be forced to recite or punished for not reciting the pledge, but it leaves me wondering what it contains found to be offensive to some? The words "one nation under God", "indivisible","liberty and justice for all"?
     
  15. scratcho

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    Don't know about the god part,but these days we seem VERY divisable and justice seems to be commensurate with ones bank account. The rhetoric is nasty from politicians AND citizens alike. Democracy should work (and has) but I'm not sure what the current state of this country will bring. I'm not optimistic.
     
  16. rjhangover

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    When I was in school, if you didn't stand up and recite the pledge you were sent to the principals office. Then the principal called your parents and told them you were disrupting the class. Then you got detention. That was in Alabama. They flunked me in the fifth grade.
     
  17. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    ^ that was wrong of them to do so.

    In my school(s) many people chose not to join in on the pledge. This was in both Colorado, and Kentucky, and the school systems always supported their decision.

    I'm pretty sure that today schools cannot force this onto anyone, and could get into serious trouble if they did.
     
  18. rjhangover

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    I went to Jr. High and high school in Gunnison Colorado.

    Have you seen the tourism ads for Texas? It says "Texas, it's like a whole different country." They've got their own History books which dispute the rest of America. And their science books preach creationism instead of evolution. They probably make kids pledge to the Lone Star State flag.
     
  19. Individual

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    Sounds to me like the case is being proven that Democracy doesn't work very well, if at all.
     
  20. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i would answer the question with a question: has it ever actually been tried?

    i read many claims that it has, but i find none of them compelling.

    i believe everyone should have a right to say woah, and if enough people say woah, stop means stop.
     

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