Does/can this person really exist?

Having now been exposed to maslow, I concur, full of shit.

 

I'm pretty sure he was saying what I wrote sounds like a bunch of hippie shit.

I can't agree, I've never heard or seen a hippie shit before...

 

Excuse me, "spouted garbage" was the term used.
I concur, Maslow spouted garbage.

 

In my hierarchy of need, basic need is the only need, everything else is optional.

 

It is bullshit in my opinion. Morality is at the very top. Does that mean that one can't be a moral person if they only have their physiological needs met?

 

Well to be fair, the apex of a pyramid is supported on the foundation beneath it.
The apex would be an adjunct to qualities already founded. The pyramid depicts layers of complexity and abstraction.

However

The appearance of the simplest form of life is as miraculous as the existence of 7 billion people.

 

Ideal humans do exist, or at least they will in the future.
They are called Nietzscheans.





(lunar every time I see this show and hear "Nietzscheans" I think of you )

 

I suppose if one's physiological needs were threatened it could cause them to do something "immoral".

 

What the hell is all this and why was it not brought to my attention sooner?

Sounds interesting.

Ayn Rand ripped off some Nietzsche theories and simply put them into her own words. Tsk tsk.

How could they possibly reject the Übermensch!

 

Uhmm, you mean Gene Roddenbury, he was the shows creator.
Ayn Rand is the space station (?) where the first Nietzscheans were genetically enginered.

 

So do you conceive that reality can be threatened? If not then those things identified as needs, are incorrectly identified, and for a person to react according to false information is hysterical.
Identifying true requirements introduces us to an amazing amount of free time.
The truth sets us free.

 

That's a difficult question.

I know what I think is the right answer yet I wouldn't be inclined to use it. I guess that's the pure definition of ignorance.

What is cannot be threatened, everything is the way it is, the way it is "supposed" to be. Yet I can be threatened, physically, I can be threatened with death or ill-treatmnent. That's the reason I hesitate to answer "No" even though "no" seems to be true.

Only our illusions can be threatened. I've been led to believe that this is reality, even though I believe it isn't the whole of reality. My physical reality can be threatened. The reality of what is cannot be.

 

i think all these qualities are good to work towards, but i don't know if such a person actually exists... i have never met one, but have met people and also have myself, got, some of these qualities...

because of my own particular beliefs about reincarnation, i'm not sure a person with all those qualities exists because there would be no need for him/her to be here... however, in these dark times, it may be that we have some here to assist some of the rest of us... if you meet one, please give him/her my contact details

very interesting post, thanks

 

The fact of our physical reality is transience. We feel threatened to the extent we have not recognized this fact. Having not recognized this fact, we may imagine that there is a state of incorrect or "bad being".

 

The fact that there is a physical reality though is what makes it a difficult question to answer. The "big picture" cannot be threatened, but while here we can be threatened with harm. Another can make it so that we are existing in a bad state.

On some level fear of harm will always exist, won't it? Is that not why some choose suicide, to seek peace from the suffering reality that takes place here?

 

I agree, because they would be inclined to hurt someone else for their own survival. But what if a group of people were trying to survive? Couldn't it be logical for someone to die for the survival of the rest?

This way there can still be morality plus survival.

 

bit of both, you were starting to sound like the double rainbow guy a bit.

 

without sounding rude, tis but idle curiosity

but any sources? you have been claiming pretty big ideas.

 

I was only stating what I feel to be true. Words and sounds can sound strange to ears that aren't used to hearing them.

Unfortunately no. The idea or conclusion is one that one has to come to on their own. You can't find what you're not looking for.

However, the idea of suicide as means of escapism is proven everyday.

 

I don't regard the reflex for integrity to be fear, more momentum. Fear of dissolution is an abstraction. That kind of fear is produced by the failure to correctly apprehend what is so.