Do you think meth is synthetic?

Yeah nothing pisses me off more than some of my friends who are like "I don't do chemical drugs, only natural ones," when those are the same friends who drink a ton. What's the difference whether it was synthesized by a human or a tree, it's still a goddamn chemical, there are some plant drugs (as was just demonstrated, also datura) that are dangerous, and many completely synthetic ones which are very safe (lsd, DPT).

 

word! I love your sig... I am going to look at that when I am tripping, so don't change it!

 

I guess everything is organic, since everything is made from something that cam from the earth. But still, some things are more poisonous and you gottah be aware. Like the meth that is made on the streets is made from nasty ass chems like battery acid and bleach and shit. I don't know how bad natural meth is compared to that but i know it's still pretty bad.

 

a 'natural' drug, is any that doesn't need to be chemically processed in order to be in it's final form. Pot, shrooms, peyote, etc...

Processed drugs, what most people refer to when talking about chemical or synthetic drugs are ones in which two or more substances are mixed together in order to change the chemical makeup of the ingredients in order to create the 'drug'. IE, coke, acid, hash (not including pressed crystals) and so on.

As to if there is a difference... about the same as the difference between organic and non-organic farming.

 

to answer your original question..

yes i did think so. til i saw your post in the synthetic forum, and wiki'd it, to find the info about that acacia tree...
interesting

still wouldn't do meth though

 

To be honest I think we're all being a little hasty here, no one seems to care that the findings of this one study have yet to be replicated.

 

I posted my finding of the berlandieri tree a while ago, but if Im not mistaken the amphetamine and meth found in it may have been false positives, meaning some one didnt clean the test tube out well enough. Its still interesting, though, because all amphetamines were thought to be man made, and theres still three, including PMA. Also, this has to be the most wholly distinct psychoactive chemicals in any one organism in the world, forty something alkaloids altogether is nothing to sneeze at.

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/acacia.htm

 

Don't you see a possible difference in that "man made" products require intelligence while "natural" products can exist without intervention?

 

Intelligence is still a product of 'natural' processes.

 

honestly ill never touch meth or anything thats addictive or man made unless i made it my self and know what im putting in my body. im natural all the way

 

Too bad youll never get to experience the best drug besides weed LSD

 

so your limiting yourself to shrooms and weed. too bad for u, your missing out on drugs that put those to shame. (molly and lsd)

 

Uhhh. Almost anything can be habit forming. What do you mean by natural? Some people consider weed to be addictive...

BTW meth IS natural. That is what this thread is all about. Please read it, its cool.....

 

plus you still take risks with natural drugs like weed and shrooms. do you really know what you're putting in your body with those? there's hundreds or thousands of chemicals in each one, not just the active ingredient.

also, the weed and shrooms we use, are pretty far from "natural." natural weed = schwag. the shrooms we eat are probably grown in a box in some dude's closet.

 

no, thats ignorant. a simple google search could bring up hundreds if not thousands of totally synthetic drugs that save lives every day.

 

i think thats not where 99.99% of people are gettin their meth lol.

 

Exactly. Meth is trash particularly because of how the stuff is made. That would be the only way i would try meth if i got on extract from acacia, but still, does anyone know how much safer that even is?

 

back in the day when I was a dinosaur, i used to nom nom nom those trees..

 

well yeh but there are other drugs like salvia, besides i dont do drugs to get fucked up. i do it in a spiritual way and besides i know meth is synthetic from the way it's made, from a tree i still wouldnt trust it and besides 4 people in my family have died using meth (two suicides 1 od and another death that wasnt exactly caused by it) besides meth has adverse effects on people and you can easily build up a dependancy. i know im the odd man out here but personally i dont see why people want to use meth or even argue that its natural but thats just my opinion to each his own. i also didnt mean directly that i wont use a synthetic drug but i prefer ones that are natural and i can grow myself or produce myself ( even though i could produce meth but i wont)

 

Yeah argueing that its natural is pointless. Really who cares meth is still meth.