Do you support Palestine or Israel?

<--- Is 41, The Jackson 5 cut was like top 40 when I was 4, had already taught myself to read by age 3 so I was a bit "ahead" on some aspects of "the game" but I've always been pretty damn selective about what aspects of it I really give 2 shits about. :cheers2:

 

I'm self-taught, too, though I did graduate the 9th grade; sadly, without honors.

 

Math is not my strong suit, but if you joined this forum in 2009, and you were 41 then, and it's 2012 now, and you're still 41, that means that you've been held back. I had no idea that they have the power to do that kind of thing to someone in a chat room.

 

08' and I've had some formal training at DeVry, but thankfully E=mc2 and it's all relative :cheers2:

And, the forum auto-adjusts your Age.

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I was going to say that technology is not my strong suit either, but now I guess I don't have to. The cat's out of the bag now.

 

If you're into DIY technology, I'm going over to the "Living on the Earth" forum to throw an idea out there . . .

 

Sorry, having trouble posting over there. Time to go . . .

 

But back to the point. I would have to say that, no, I do not support this:


- Israel has only two countries to defend its policies in the UN - the United States and Micronesia
- Israel is the only country on Earth that denies the right of return of refugees.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that still occupies a whole other country and parts of two other countries.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that publicly steals the water of its neighbors.
- Israel is the only country that has legalized home demolishing as a method of collective punishment.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that uproots trees as a method of collective punishment.
- Israel is the only country that deliberately targets civilian infrastructure, and justifies it.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that has legalized assassination.
- Israel stands unique in using human shields in military operations.
- Amongst all countries, Israel is the only one that has legalized torture.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that builds illegal settlements in occupied lands.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that publicly jails activists without trial.
- According to the Guiness Book of World Records, Israel has created the highest number of checkpoints.
- According to the Guiness Book of World Records, Israel holds the World Record in the number of days of curfew she installed on the Palestinians.
- Israel is the only country on Earth whose checkpoints women, denied access to hospital, give birth, babies usually die.
- Israeli checkpoints deny patients access to hospitals
- Israel is the only country whose checkpoints school children, denied access to school, end having their classes.
- Israel is one of two countries that, against International Law, use cluster bombs and depleted uranium bombs.
- Israel holds the world record in the number of soldiers refusing to serve in the army.
- Israel has received 67.5 billion dollars of aid from the United States from 1946-2005, approximately the same amount of aid given to sub-Saharan Africa and part of South America.
- Israel claims its enemies want to wipe it off the map, but indeed she has wiped a whole country off the map.
- Israel is the country that has introduced nuclear weapons into the Middle East, but is the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
- After East Germany, Israel is the only country that has built a segregation wall.
- Second to South Africa, Israel is the only current country to establish an apartheid regime.
- Israeli engineers developed the world's first: IRON GATES ON THE ROADS.
- Israeli engineers developed the world's first: CITIES TURNED INTO JAILS, WITH GATES AND OPENING HOURS.
- Israeli engineers developed the first: ELECTRIFIED SEGREGATION FENCES
- Israeli engineers developed the world's first - EYES SPECIFIC RUBBER BULLETS
- Israeli engineers developed the world's first: ABORTION EFFICIENT, INFANT KILLING TEAR GAS.
- Israeli engineers developed the world's first - HUMILIATION GUARANTEED HUAMN CAGES.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that has a political party that publicly advocates ethnically cleansing of the native citizens.
- Israel is the only country that still has racist laws that discriminate against its native citizens.
- Israel is the only country known to have a memorial dedicated to a terrorist, where his followers gather and dance.
- Israel is the only country on Earth that imprisons children for political reasons.
- Israel is the only country on Earth where you get one month community service for smashing the head of a child.
- Israel is the only country that does not hold its soldiers accountable for the shooting of peace activists.
- No other country has towns and cities allocated exclusively for one ethnic group.
- Israel is the only country on Earth where people live in homes stolen from living refugees.
- Israel is the only country on Earth where people cultivate fields stolen from living refugees.
- Israel ranks among the top countries in lack of security.

 

NOR THIS:

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992

1. Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
13. Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
31. Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
39. Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
41. Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
42. Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
55. Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

 

No, I do not support nationalistic ideals or ideals of cultural or racial purity.

 

I wanted to tell you that I am your cantankerous brother, but you already know that. And I wanted to tell you that your unconditional acceptance of such a one as myself is not lost on me. I needed to tell you that. I wondered what was holding me here this last day. Now I can go.

Peace

 

Hope you come back around again sometime friend, things are only starting to get interesting.

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Israel breaks international law for the . . . whatevereth time with no repercussions, no sanctions, no nothing. WTF!? And they have the nerve to ask, "Why does the world hate us?" Somebody give them a mirror.
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UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has criticized the Israeli regime for legalizing the status of three illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank.

"All settlement activity is illegal under international law," said Ban on Tuesday, adding that he was "deeply troubled" by Tel Aviv's unlawful move.

The UN chief made the remarks after the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced the legalization of the outposts of Bruchin and Rechelim in northern West Bank and Sansana in the southern part of the occupied Palestinian territory.

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Wouldn't it be great if I could kick you out of your house and off your land, and then proclaim that it's not a crime because I so order it legalized? Apparently, Israel's motto is: The law be damned! We'll have what we will!

Something tells me that the worst thing that's going to happen to Israel is that they're going to be forced to live with the knowledge that they have "deeply troubled" General Ban Ki-moon. What a fate to suffer. How will Netanyahu sleep?



http://www.presstv.ir/detail/237990.html

 

They will label all negative reaction to this as 'Anti-semitism'.

 

neither - although israel is a bunch of fuckholes.

 

i support israel leaving the palestinians alone. oh, and i support both of them ceasing adherence to the dicta of bronze-age goat-herders who happened to have some pretty fanciful imaginary friends.

 

Supporting eather side doesn't change anything. If we support Isreal or Palestine it means we don't know anything about the history of the region, and we judge just by our ideas not by reality.
Now there's a dirty war between Israel and Hamas, many people have been killed by both sides, thousands of homes and basic facilities have been ditroied in Gaza, and more than one million people have to move to the southern of Gaza, these people are at the middle of no way. On the other side thousands of people have to left their homes to be out of the front of the probably fighting line with Hezbollah.
The people life is not matter in both sides, so , what is your idea to support one of them ?

 

I find both Hamas and Zionism pretty much equally repugnant.

That said, I think that it bears noting that this isn't a fair fight.
Israel has 253 combat aircraft (including the largest fleet of F-16's outside the U.S., and 36 F-35's), 170 helicopters, 2,200 tanks, 56,290 APC/ACV's, 12,050 pieces of artillery...and around 90 nuclear weapons and the fissionable material to rapidly assemble about 200 more. By contrast, Gaza is the world's largest concentration camp, comprised of 2.2 million people in 17 square miles, which gets bombed with such regularity that Israelis have a sardonic euphemism for the mass slaughter of civilians by the IDF; "mowing the grass". Gaza has no air defenses, no aircraft, and no armor; only their glorified home-made bottle rockets and 1950's vintage small arms.
Both Palestinians and Israelis regularly engage in tit-for-tat massacres of civilians, starting way back in 1937, long before the Balfour Agreement. Neither give a rat's ass about the Geneva Conventions, U.N. resolutions (including 242), or the rules of war (such as they are).
Another advantage Israel enjoys is tribute; around 4.5 billion American dollars annually (plus 1.5-2 billion dollars annually in charitable donations; did you know that the IDF is a 501(c)(3)?) That's $270 billion since it's inception; the largest beneficiary of American largesse in history despite comprising only .1% of the global population. Meanwhile in America our teachers have to buy their own chalk.
Israel has another thing Hamas doesn't; an automatic fig leaf provided by a blanket veto by a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, and an explicit carte blanche from the President of the United States.
As I said; not a fair fight. In the last razing of Gaza in 2014, Israel maintained a kill ratio of around 30:1; mostly noncombatants.
Who do I support; Palestine or Israel? Assuming that you are referring to the nation-state of Israel and the junta of Hamas; May God damn them both to Hell!
If you're referring to the people of Israel and the people of Palestine, I support them equally pursuant to U.N. Resolution 242 (et al.) and the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights.

 

When you open a door, you will never know what comes in.

Shudda kept that door shut.

 

It's all just proof of one more of humans never ending slaughter of one another, for reasons that always make sense to all involved. It's what we humans do and have always done. Peace will only come when all humans are gone from this planet.