Do you own a gun?

I don't understand the part where you make up statistics idiot. Lol, Americans crack me up. Look it up any where and you'll see Americans are offing each other in record numbers. Their not just pointing there finger and killing them.

 

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this is a radical idea but if a person is killed
by a firearm should not the gun maker as well
amunition maker and the seller of the gun
be prosecuted as well as the offender.
they are all responsible for act in itself

 

Yeah, I just got a whiff of idiocy too. Wonder where it's coming from...



The VAST majority of people who are doing the killing are convicted felons who have been legally banned from owning guns for decades. I don't see why the fact that the system let them off with a slap on the wrist so they could run the streets should affect my constitutional rights.

Yep, and whenever someone gets drunk and kills a family in a car wreck we should prosecute the car manufacturers AND car dealers as well. "They are all responsible for act in itself".







How do you people manage to make it through your lives on a daily basis?

 

your missing the point my friend
the only purpose a gun has is to kill
it has no other purpose a car well
it is a form of transportation and is not
a weapon it could be but thats not its purpose

 

what do you do with a gun
beside shoot things with it
nothing .

 

Friday, April 11, 2008

This week's outrage comes from North Carolina, where an East Wake High School principal, acting with the support of the area superintendent, stopped the school's Marksmanship Team from participating in a decades-old tournament, less than one day before the competition.
The reason? Well, though state law allows firearms education at schools, the county in which the school resides bans firearms from school campuses and prohibits students from carrying firearms on school trips. Apparently, one of East Wake High School's principals, Sebastian Shipp, determined that the policy extended the prohibition to students participating in an off-campus event--namely, the tournament that the 16-member marksmanship and orienteering team had been preparing for--so he barred the team from participating. Area superintendent, Danny Barnes, supported Shipp's decision noting that these kinds of decisions are up to each principal.
Commenting on the policy, Wes Seegars, chairman of the N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission said, "I can appreciate the fact they may have a policy, but all the government agencies need to remember, they're there to serve the public. There is something lost in a policy that does not serve the needs of the community."
The decision nullified months of practice by the 16-member marksmanship and orienteering team.
So, we have a time-honored, decades-old tournament that is sponsored by a state agency and supervised by adults certified in firearms safety. A tournament in which students have invested months of disciplined practice. And less than one day before they are due to compete, they are barred from participating due to a very questionable school ruling. That's outrageous.

















Why do you have such a problem with these good law-abiding citizens practicing the hobby of their choice? YOU ARE A FASCIST PIG!

 

ask yourself would the world be a better place without guns
surely it would

 

Hey, I actually agree with that statement man. I really do.


But I'm sorry to say that's not the case. There are guns, and there will always be guns until the end.

That being said, you can choose one and only one of the following:

1) Ban guns, then only dangerous criminals and the government will have them.

or

2) Allow people who don't have a history of violent crime, or mental illness to own them as well so they at least have the same level of protection as the criminals and government.



To me it's a no brainer.

 

It is self-evident fact. You think I'm lying about there being no "right to bear arms" in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms? Go check; it's only 30 articles or so. Or go check the Journal of Canadian Studies for a couple articles on Canadian values. They're converging with American values, and have been for decades.

You used a word incorrectly and repeatedly, which probably means you didn't know the difference. Your posts are littered with mistakes, which probably means you read and write at a third-grade level.

You wouldn't know logic if Socrates kicked you in the balls.

Point out one specific mistake. You can find a study (not you in particular, but somebody with one iota of intelligence) that disagrees with me, but the mass of academia doesn't.

Easy there Will Ferrell.

You're an embarassment to your country.

 

i agree its already to late to stop
and that not everyone who owns a gun is a criminal

 

Um, why are you asking me if I own a gun? Are you casing my house? Then the answer is yes. LOL


I never considered getting a gun until I moved to this place. My neighbor has tried to get into my apartment several times while I was home, in the shower, in bed, etc. I told the landlady and she doesn't care.

He is so creepy.

But I have kids and they are curious and I don't trust them to be in a house with a gun. So, instead, I asked someone I know to get me NRA stickers and I put them on my windows.

I looked for firearms classes but there aren't any around here. There are gun shows though. If I were reaaaaally motivated, I could ask around at one of those. I bet my creepy neighbor would be there, though.

2 other creepy neighbors have paid my children and I unwanted attention that borders on stalking. And I live around the corner from a group home for mentally ill men who scream at the sky and growl at us when we walk by. Every couple of months I go to the Megan's Law website to see if there are any new pedophiles in that house. There's always someone.

So, no, I am not opposed to owning a gun. I'd feeling safr if my kids weren't so curious and disobedient.

 

Faced with fewer hunters, W.Va. may offer gun training in schools
Jan 30, 2008 @ 11:08 PM
By The Associated Press
The Associated Press

CHARLESTON -- A significant drop in the number of hunters in West Virginia has left multimillion dollar holes in the state's budget and one lawmaker thinks he has the solution: allow children to receive hunter training in school.

Children would be instructed in everything from survival skills to gun safety, but the guns would either have dummy ammunition or be disabled in some way. Sen. Billy Wayne Bailey, who introduced the bill, doesn't envision West Virginia's middle-schoolers firing real guns during class time.

"It's a way to take this kind of education in the classroom and make it more convenient for young people," the Wyoming County Democrat said.

West Virginia, where roughly 320,000 people participated in the gun season for bucks, may be the only state in the country contemplating such a bill, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Hunting is a huge part of life in West Virginia but, mirroring a national trend, the number of hunters buying permits has been declining for years.

The state sold 154,763 hunting permits to residents in 2006, according to the Division of Natural Resources, a 17 percent drop from 1997. Although West Virginia still ranks in the top six nationally for sales of nonresident permits, the decline is being felt at the state Capitol.

This month, Gov. Joe Manchin proposed spending $1.8 million on DNR's law enforcement efforts to make up for revenue lost due to the decline of hunting and fishing permits.

"West Virginia is probably in better shape than other states, but this is really rather disconcerting from our perspective," said DNR Assistant Chief of Wildlife Management Paul Johansen.

Nationally, the number of hunters 16 and older stands at roughly 12.5 million, a decline of 10 percent from 1996 to 2006, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Part of West Virginia's problem is it doesn't require senior citizens to purchase a license for hunting, and the state has one of the oldest populations per capita in the nation. But the ranks of hunters aren't being replenished by young people, which Bailey said is part of the motivation for his bill.

"Hunting is a way of life in West Virginia," he said.

To secure a hunting license, residents have to be at least 10 years old on the day of the test. They have to complete a minimum of 10 hours of training, focusing on areas like gun safety and survival skills.

The test for the $33 license includes a written portion and a demonstration of proper gun safety, according to Lt. Tim Coleman of the DNR. Would-be hunters have to show they can load and unload a gun safely, carry it across obstacles and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

Offering hunter training as a voluntary course in schools would allow greater access for students who can't set aside the time to take the class, usually on Saturdays, or have trouble traveling the distance to where courses are offered, Bailey said.

The move would be welcomed by hunting groups, which have been watching the decline with alarm.

Three such groups -- the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance and the National Wild Turkey Federation -- have created an initiative called Families Afield, designed to get more young people hunting in part by lobbying states to reduce restrictions on young hunters.

Since the effort began in 2004, the group points to legislative successes in 12 states.

"The hunting population in general is aging, and it's not being replaced by young hunters," said Tony Aeschliman, spokesman for the Newtown, Conn.-based National Shooting Sports Foundation. "Those states who are aggressive about recruiting and retaining new hunters, though, are seeing some very positive results."

The decline in hunters is something that should be celebrated, though, according to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, which said Wednesday the West Virginia bill is a bad idea.

"Americans are compassionate people, and that's why hunting is on the decline," said activist liaison Nicole Matthews. "Instead of teaching kids to be insensitive to suffering, we should be helping them appreciate nature in ways that aren't destructive."

*****Ok guys, wrap your heads around THIS*****

 

Notice the governor thinks that adding more LAW ENFORCEMENT to the mix will help as well... Gotta go after those poverty stricken poachers!.. And I bet the guy who thought this up is one of the same lawmakers who's still trapped in the terror of "reefer Madness" (But that's yet another story of legislature stupidity in WV)...

Now, pray tell, with people in powerful places agitating for gun classes IN SCHOOL of all places, how ya ever gonna BAN them??? Please, just tell everyone HOW. A few years ago the school tried a similar scheme, even more hair-brained than this one. It was called something like "Say no to drugs, say YES to shooting"... I raised hell with the principal, and was told I was the ONLY parent who objected...

I do believe there are a couple folks here who didn't come here with the best of intentions. And we all know who you are.

 

One more thing before I forget. A little story. Yesterday I stopped at the local vice store. A woman was in there buying cigs and had her son with her, he was about 8 or so. He was braggin' about having shot some birds in their yard. Apparently mom told him it was ok to shoot pigeons but not finches....(?!) He had an accident and shot the finches instead. Guess mom got onto him about killing the wrong birds, but he stated to the sales clerk "That's what huntin' is all about..."

I looked him dead in the eye and said "no, hunting is all about eating what you kill". Blew his mind.

So, tell me again, how do you ever ban guns in a place where people commonly think it's ok just to pop off at random wildlife without any other reason than to kill something?

 

I know I already posted this, but Earthmother brought up guns in school so...




Friday, April 11th 2008

North Carolina, where an East Wake High School principal, acting with the support of the area superintendent, stopped the school's Marksmanship Team from participating in a decades-old tournament, less than one day before the competition. The reason? Well, though state law allows firearms education at schools, the county in which the school resides bans firearms from school campuses and prohibits students from carrying firearms on school trips. Apparently, one of East Wake High School's principals, Sebastian Shipp, determined that the policy extended the prohibition to students participating in an off-campus event--namely, the tournament that the 16-member marksmanship and orienteering team had been preparing for--so he barred the team from participating. Area superintendent, Danny Barnes, supported Shipp's decision noting that these kinds of decisions are up to each principal.

Commenting on the policy, Wes Seegars, chairman of the N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission said, "I can appreciate the fact they may have a policy, but all the government agencies need to remember, they're there to serve the public. There is something lost in a policy that does not serve the needs of the community."

The decision nullified months of practice by the 16-member marksmanship and orienteering team.

So, we have a time-honored, decades-old tournament that is sponsored by a state agency and supervised by adults certified in firearms safety. A tournament in which students have invested months of disciplined practice. And less than one day before they are due to compete, they are barred from participating due to a very questionable school ruling.




But I can understand the principal's concern. For all we know, one of those competitors could have been a mass-murderer! I can see his plan now...patiently going through all of those months and months of supervised training, all the while just aching for the opportunity to strike! Because after all, I can't think of any easier way to get my hands on a gun than to infiltrate a competitive shooting league, train for months on end (to build up trust), then commencing with a massacre as soon as they let their guard down. Hey, they coulda REALLY had a big problem on their hands of all 32 members of both teams just "reacted" like all nutty gun owners do, and they all shot eachother to death in a massive wild-west style bloodbath! I'm sure this happens like 4x a day, at LEAST.


Silly firearms owners, guns are for the government and their army!
[/smoldering sarcasm]

 

I don't own a gun, but I think people should be allowed to own one as long as they are demonstrably sane.

 

No firearms (outside special circumstances) in the UK.

Which sucks, because I have done air-pistol shooting before, and would have liked to have progressed to real handguns, if it were possible.

 

Not a good feeling knowing your government doesn't trust you, is it?

 

no i dont