Do vegitarrians eat fish?

Good posts to some of you (those that are stating fish IS meat and does have feelings)

To the rest- do you have a brain?

 

So true! And I also believe that plants have feelings, and just because we don't understand them doesn't mean that they aren't there. But I have to survive as well, so I eat them, but I still respect them, or at least try to.

 

do you think a dog forgets it was beaten?

do you think a cat forgets it was a stray for sooo long and now its in a home yet still sprays???

its not just "instinct"
its from experiance...

 

fish are carnivores, chicken, cattle and pigs are not. I'm not a veggie as you know but just something for all to think about when really examining the morality of the societal food chain

 

Some fish are predators and some aren't. The ones that aren't are the best to eat- including mackerol, sardines and salmon.

Some fish are predators, some arent.

edit- I know you said carnivore not predator- however, I decided that was some how relative

 

yeah and shrimp are shit eaters but we still eat those dont we?

 

In any case- saying fish are carnivores is really kind of silly. What else are most fish to eat? They eat other meat because it's survival.

 

i think this is close to the line between vegans and vegitarians. and i have no personal feelings about what anybody else does or does not eat. so i'm not seeing this as any big deal or making one out of it. i'm someone who'll "eat anything if it don't eat me first". preferably with a lot of herbs and spices and vegies on the side. maybe a bit of broth and noodles too.

it's also a cultural thing. you know how some beliefs wil certain things they'll eat and ones they won't. and the real origens of that can be quite interesting and not always as arbitrary in the context of their origens as perpetuating their traditions might seem to be in the present day.

inhabitions against eating pork for example may have had as much to do with environmental concerns as difficulty of preservation and risk of disease.

and land locked cultures that were too far from the ocean to get fish that weren't already rotten might understandably have developed traditions of not eating it.

there's the 'kosher' thing about the arbitrary and absolute, "meat" and "dairy", which classess such things as fish and poultry as dairy. i forget the details.

pain? yah, everything with a central nervous systems FEELS pain, and probably experiences it too, at least i'm pretty sure virtualy all mammels and most reptiles do too.

slaves? we're all slaves. competition was invented to convince slaves they were free while keeping them slaves. trying to impress each other is (mostly self inflicted) slavery.

some animals do eat other animals so there's nothing unnatural about it and i think that's a whole totaly nother topic.

where exactly you draw the line between plant and animal i'm not sure. there ARE ciessal animals and benthonic plants. and what do you call a star'fish' (which isn't a fish at all, doesn't even have a central nervous sistem, yet survives as a very successful preditor)? if it was big enough to be a threat to US it would certainly be a horror movie monster.

and there ARE wrongnessess about the way we treat other creatures, whether we eat them, keep them as comencils, or just destroy their habitat. and yes there are more pressing issues too. i really don't see one thing as diminishing or increasing another.

i don't think weather or not one can feel pain is a very good way of defining animals, for one thing we don't reall know what anything else actualy does feel. which also doesn't mean that makes it alright to cause suffering needlessly. that much is never alright, reguardless.

i think we need to respect more the contribution what we eat makes to ourselves. maybe by being thankful to its spirit or something. darn i didn't mean to get into all of that either.

yes of course a fish is meat, as is a chichken or turkey. and people are welcome to call themselves whatever they see fit to call themselves.

the only thing people aren't welcome to do is make a totaly unneccessary annoyance of themselves.

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