Do gentlemen still exist?...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by verseau_miracle, Nov 22, 2005.

  1. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I never mentioned money. By "gifts" i meant the little things...it can be anything. Use your imagination. Notes hidden around the house...making them a meal...doing some cleaning...buying small things like chocolates or a meal in a cheap restaurant. I really just feel a lot of mens sense of romance has gone.
     
  2. happyhippyflower

    happyhippyflower Sucker Punch

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    Understood. Now don't get mad when one of us slam it in your face either.
     
  3. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Oh wait, i did mention money. Well, i didnt mean a lot of it:D Jus some men spend absolutely NOTHING on their women.
    If you love someone, you share whats yours with them.

    P.s-Yes, i would share whatever money i had with a man i loved. I doubt hed accept it in the form of money...but id buy plenty of gifts.
     
  4. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: I really just feel a lot of mens sense of romance has gone.

    You don't get it.

    You basically sit here saying "I would like to find a man who will think of me constantly, find interesting and novel ways to get my affection, to romance me, buy me gifts, take me out to dinner" etc.

    What's in it for the guy?

    I mean, I could come in here and say "it seems to me that women aren't really women anymore. They don't stay at home, clean the house, learn to cook and have our slippers and cold beer ready when we get back from work." But that is a sexist and frankly degrading point of view.
     
  5. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    backpedal faster please....



    there's a big fucking difference between respecting your partner, and expecting them to get you things regularly. Being put on a pedestal, well, that'll just set up expectations that you can never meet, they'll get frustrated over it and it'll break up. It's too imbalanced a relationship. If a man does all those stereotypically romantic things for you, are you going to do them all back?
     
  6. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: If you love someone, you share whats yours with them.

    And what of yours will you share with your man?
     
  7. yeah.... the reverse feminism thing is a little creepy......
     
  8. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Whats in it for the man is, hed get this ultimate respect in return. No way am i saying this would be a one-sided thing. I want someone to share mutual respect and love with.
     
  9. sara_rose

    sara_rose Ice Queen

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    oh yes they do!
     
  10. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Whatever i have to give.

    At the moment this is-time, love, understanding, patience, ideas, emotions, small amounts of money(im a student)

    If i was rich i would still share money.
     
  11. I don't think you understand respect as a concept.....
     
  12. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Imhurria hit it on the head, solidly. I think she used to play hockey. Cause she Brasheared that one through the back of the net.
     
  13. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: Whats in it for the man is, hed get this ultimate respect in return. No way am i saying this would be a one-sided thing. I want someone to share mutual respect and love with.

    What's the "ultimate respect"?
     
  14. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    YAY:d i know they do too...just theyre very rare. You get one you hang on to him:p

    Xx
     
  15. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    heehee


    I'm not trying to be miss superbitch, I'm all for equality between the genders but demanding this sorta stuff from a man is ridiculous when you aren't going to be putting in precisely the same amoutn of effort, time and money in. It sounds like you wanna be put on a pedestal and worshipped. While I understand the urge, it's a completely unrealistic expectation from anyone who really exists
     
  16. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Im sure 99% of the popluation do not understand respect as a concept. Would you care to explain?
    I believed i had a pretty solid grasp of it, but who knows. Concepts are different for everyone afterall
     
  17. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    I'm not saying that imhurria.

    She came in with "why can't you worship me and buy me presents"

    now it's

    "why can't we have a relationship in which we both spoil each other?"

    To which I say, there are lots of non-gentlemen in the latter category.
     
  18. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: I believed i had a pretty solid grasp of it, but who knows. Concepts are different for everyone afterall

    BINGO

    And I hate to say, you've spent the past forty years telling us that that whole pedastal-worship-present thing was patronising.

    I find it VERY interesting that the anti-feminist backlash comes just as plants are closing and jobs are getting REALLY hard to find and times are getting increasingly tougher.
     
  19. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Ive explained many times that i WOULD be giving this stuff in return. The reason the thread is titled "do gentlemen still exist?", as ive already explained, is that i dont have intimate relationships with women. I have no idea whether or not women in general are starting to lack the necessary respect.
     
  20. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    s'true. I just... gah. I don't get why some of us chicks are like that, why money/presents are so important. It makes no sense to me
     
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