Diversity is our strength?

So youre just gonna ignore the crux of the matter addressed above

 

I answered it a few posts up but you seem a little biased. I see both sides and I’m not an advocate of affirmative action. But I’m against racism and sexism in all its forms and for people having fair opportunities, that’s all.

If a company has only white men working for it, I would hope that they hired that way, based on merit and not racism. Because then you’d have to ask yourself, were you hired based on merit or your race? There’s no winners with racism.

 

Do you realistically think anyone here is advocating racism?

 

When you dislike diversity in the workplace, what does this mean?

 

Nothing wrong with diversity. Until it becomes forced on me or a company or a nation. Diversity only works when it adds naturally to it's environment.

 

Agree.

 

I see what you're saying. Yet not many women apply for plumbing, garbage collecting, or sewage work. Plus there's still plenty of communities that aren't very mixed race at all. So the employer may have no choice from all the white male applicants to hire

 

Answering a question with a question I see.

 

I agree and it's unfair to just make a blanket statement when we see a predominantly all white staff, that the management must be racist. I just believe that natural diversity, hiring applicants regardless of gender or race and based on merit, will have positive results. Companies have suffered in their revenue/stocks who hire people to fill quotas without being qualified. You'd think that's common sense but...

I think a concerning problem in corporations is the outsourcing of jobs to other countries, thereby eliminating jobs here. Those companies are sneaky, they have found a way to look ''diverse'' without hurting their bottom line, and pleasing their investors.

 

Well, we are where we are for a reason. All these things that make people mad, i.e. Implementing diversity in the workplace, equal opportunity, affirmative action, etc. are being "forced" because at some point, it was identified that some companies, some departments, some organizations were NOT hiring individuals based off of merit, but we're hiring using "the good ol boy" system. Employers were looking after their kin, their friend's friends, etc., offering them first dibs on job opportunities, whether they were qualified for the job or not. This shit is still happening because folks have found ways to get around the system to get what they want.

 

How do you know that hiring based on merit will lead to this "natural diversity" as you call it. Hiring based on merit is not necesarily going to lead to diversity.

 

You are debunking yourself here because the whole reason why quota driven diversity hurts the bottom line is because it is not merit based hiring. So therefore if merit based hiring does not yield diversity, that also does not mean that racism is the sole cause of the homogeneity.

 

Hiring based on merit without bias or preconceived notions about a person's race, will. I like what Eric posted above, that is how I view it, also.

 

If youre an employer and will be the one losing the money, you might think differently. Those "preconcieved notions and bias" may actually be reasonable.

 

Yes this happens. So if black owned or run companies does the same is it the same problem?

Further what if I hire someone of a different race because I know him/her to be a good employee from prior relationships. Is this penalizing that race because he was a good ole boy that was a known good employee?

 

I used to work at an ashram in the Bahamas that was incredibly sexist. The men did all the dirty work, the women did all the cooking.

 

yeah, my boss is always telling me i need to go out of my way to hire more black and hispanic people because our employees should match the makeup of the community we're in. so my question is, why doesn't he want half of our employees to be meth addicts?

 

Well....I don't know. Do Caucasians seek employment at predominantly black owned businesses?? I don't know. And yes, it's simply unfair if you don't put everyone through the same hiring process. Talent can be mistakenly overlooked. Give everyone a fair chance by screening their applications to see whose the best qualified, followed by the interview process that should ultimately determine who is best fit for the job. The good ole boy whose a known good employee might be good where he worked at before, but that doesn't automatically qualify him for the position you need filled.

 

What does he mean by “go out of your way?”

 

Should whites be able to be hired by a black run/owned company and be given a fair chance at employment there?