Disorders are bullshit

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by Pellinore, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. snake_grass

    snake_grass Senior Member

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    sounds like society built a base your brain should be at

    then if its not they call you something

    and its usually something nasty
     
  2. Pellinore

    Pellinore Member

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    I rather agree with you snake.

    No-one is perfect, everyone has his own little imperfections, so yea, disorders are bullshit, i will not claim that disorders do not exists, but the negavity around the whole concept of disorders is bullshit, society shouldn't put a label on people, or try to forge everyone after the ideal person... if everyone would be the same, our society would be nothing better then a ant hill where individuality doesn't count.. and individuality is the most important, i will claim this now and i will claim it in the future, society can go to hell, if it means giving up individuality in order to function like a brainless robotic slave in this rotten society.
     
  3. db3695

    db3695 Member

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    I get the same thing from my husband. If I'm tired or silent it must be depression. How about just tired. Or just quiet. I know I feel better (most of the time) on medication but it all just sucks.
     
  4. ladybrunette

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    yea being on meds doesn't bother me so much... I wouldn't mind being called bipolar if it wasn't for my parents thinking that I'm not sad because something bad happened or energetic b/c I'm happy or just had a coffee... it's always a "chemical imbalance" I don't think that is always if ever the case
     
  5. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Some people are born with chemical imbalances due to improperly functioning transmitters, neurons, etc. Resulting in disorders. maybe thats brain damage maybe its not but it doesn't make the disorder less real if its not.
     
  6. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    And sometimes some neurons produce too much serotonin and other neurons don't produce enough, resulting in OCD from the serotonin imbalance.
     
  7. Pellinore

    Pellinore Member

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    *sighs*
     
  8. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    You're not even willing to allow that a deformity could exist?
    Nope, the brain just fixes itself. Always. And it always comes out all right.
    Ooookay. Your opinion. Fair enough.
     
  9. Pellinore

    Pellinore Member

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    The mind can't be perfect, but it will always have some kind of balance, and in the end these imperfections are part of our individual-self. That is what i believe. People just have to learn to acept their true self, and so must the people who surround them.
     
  10. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    Okay,that's fine, but what if these deformities interfere with everyday life? What if it has been shown consistently that a mutation/disturbance in gene X leads to a number of symptoms that make it impossible for a person to function normally:

    EX: Phenylketonuria- recessive disease that results in mental retardation when phenylalanine accumulates in the brain because the body cannot break it down
    EX 2: Huntington's disease- dominant disease resulting in neurodegeneration and personality changes

    That's all a disorder is, really: a name given to a set of symptoms that present themselves time after time. Sometimes the cause is known, but sometimes it isn't.
    The same could apply to an injury:

    EX: My grandfather went from a laid back fellow to a physically abusive beast when he had a motorcycle accident. I'm going to go out onto a limb and say that it wasn't because he hit his head and suddenly decided he hated my grandmother, aunt and mother.

    I'm not saying don't take into consideration the fuckery society can be, but biologically speaking, sometimes the cause is much more simple than tearing down our social system.
     
  11. Pellinore

    Pellinore Member

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    Ok then, there might be "disorders" wich go to a degree that the person itself suffers under it.

    But take these examples, what about bi-polar disorder, adhd, add.. and so many other disorders..

    I've been diagnosed for bp and add.. i've took meds in the past, but it was never because i thought something was wrong with me, it was because people told me that something was wrong with me, i never asked for a magical cure.. but they told me i couldn't function at school and as the ignorant 14-year old kid i was i took the meds they prescribed.. but now i've come to the conclusion that it wasn't me who couldn't function, but that it was society that lacks tolerance towards kids/people that do not behave like the ideal/normal person. Now, where do you draw the line? I managed fine without meds, yes i got kicked out of highschool previous year because i just was who i was.. but that for me is no reason to go on meds. I think people should seriously think about their little imperfections before making a drama of it and going on meds for god knows what reason. I hate my mood swings, i terribly hate them, but its a part of who i am, and if people can't handle this fact then for me they can go to hell.

    Those who suffer real disorders that makes them disfunctional not only in society, but also in their daily life, are small in numbers.. they do need help, but not from meds, but from the people around them. Meds doesn't solve anything, it does not cure anything.. if it did disorders wouldn't be around.. most meds just supress symptons..
    and that is even more unnatural then the symptons itself.
     
  12. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I can't believe that all these mental disorders in young people just now happened.

    We have either advanced our knowledge of detection, or somebody has pills to sell.

    Independent thought is frowned upon by the powers that be. Be forewarned.


    x
     
  13. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Pelinore and xexon, I get what you're saying. There are a lot of disorder scams and for lack of a better word, conspiracies in the world.

    But there are also people who have real problems. ADD is a fine example, there are people who have attention problems and there are also a lot of people who have an agenda dependent on convicing people they have attention problems.

    It's an issue when people biuld capitalist or political agendas around that kind of thing, but we shouldn't be discounting people with real problems in exposing those agendas.
     
  14. One Man Band

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    Many people are looking for an excuse, justification or a simple "out" for errant behavior. They claim a disorder to escape repercussions.
    Some people have problems. I have an ex that could have had, and could today have a wonderful life. Instead we are treated to exhibitions of rage, depression and joy that make the wildest roller coaster seem like so much flat track. A real disorder can be treated if the owner is willing. The rest are malingering fools. "Mr T" has a good quote.
     
  15. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    I had a friend who's sister was like that. Those two didn't get along very well.
     
  16. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    So some people have disorders and some people are bastards. Nothing new, IMO. :p
     
  17. Some call me Jim

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    i have changed my mind from my last post.

    there are no such things as disorders; the world is perfect and the only way to make it any better is to drink lots of warm milk.


    with a splash of honey.
     
  18. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    I tried doing that once. It was gross, and I still have panic attacks... Maybe I used the wrong kind of honey?
     
  19. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    the root of all mental health problems is linguistic
     
  20. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    That's quite an assertion. Care to elaborate?
     

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