Did you know that concrete can grow?

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Morning Myst, May 23, 2006.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I like the way you think. Too bad things have changed here in the States. They used to be the way you describe. I grew up playing in a Model T carcass that was parked in my grandparents back yard. Every house on the neighbor had at least one. Now you can get cited for it. Everyone is more interested in their real estate values than their personal rights.
     
  2. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    You're right, creepy is the word for it. The whole thing reminds me of the sci-fi strory A Wrinkle in Time (by Madeleine L'Engle) where all the houses are the same and everybody acts alike because all the people are controlled by a single disembodied brain. It's like sci-fi is becoming reality in the suburbs. Definitely creepy.
     
  3. streamlight2

    streamlight2 Member

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    Is it really that big of a deal, that water is returned to the environment. And to the person who asked why people clean their cars, if you don't then it fucks up the paint, then it starts to corrode and rust, and then you need to fix that before it spreads.
     
  4. skyjewelz

    skyjewelz Member

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    i've heard of people doing that, never seen it though
     
  5. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    I wish the government would enact a conservation law or something. Maybe higher prices for overconsumption of water will get people to stop, or at the very least fewer water wasters.

    One can only dream :)
     
  6. wildfire

    wildfire Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    yeah but then if you are controling how much water people use that is totalitarian in itself and i think that is worse.
     
  7. Pronatalist

    Pronatalist Banned

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    And yet nature "wastes" water all the time, pouring it down in rain, that then runs down storm drains and streams and rivers, all the way out to the ocean, often having done little or nothing, for humans.

    What's wrong with washing the car, or washing off the driveway, when there is no drought, and where water is currently abundant and cheap?

    Yeah, and I could break my rake, raking leaves until my arms hurt, rather than more easily using an electricity-consuming leaf blower. But why would I? Why not use a "power" tool, where one is available?

    I neither wash off my driveway, nor sweep it either. I only blow it off with the mower, after mowing grass. I don't wash my car either. Who has time to have a shiny clean car, to just get dirty again? It's the stuff under the hood, that wears out faster, anyway. Let the rain wash the car.

    And no, I don't have a "low flow" showerhead, nor a "water conserving" toilet, that almost can't quite flush itself. All that stuff is the old stuff that came with my house. I don't waste water, that isn't scarce to begin with, but I do fill up a nice full bathtub to soak in, when I finally get around to taking a much-needed bath.

    What I think is dumb, is all these morons in their cars, driving to trivial, useless sport events or concerts, (as opposed to essential stuff, like driving to work or to the supermarket), when the gasoline prices are so outragious high! Why not stay home, and get some stuff at home done, and protest the deliberate "shortage" manufacturing, of the greedy oil corporations, and the "environmental" extremists who want to drive their cars and SUVs but don't want to drill for more oil in Alaska, and whatever the government is also doing, to aggravate the problem?

    I keep talking back, to the "idiot tube" TV commercials, saying something like, "Uh, excuse me! Are you not aware that the gasoline prices have been jacked up ridiculously high? Gas prices are too high, so I refuse to buy." (that inefficiently delivered pizza or whatever they are trying to sell me) Nor do I like to drive to the store, having to share the roads with idiot drivers who never use any turn signals, just to buy just 1 thing. I wait, and wait, until I need most everything, as I have other things to do anyway. I tell the telemarketers too, that "Taxes are too high, so I refuse to buy."

    What happens, if due to high gasoline prices, consumption drops by just 1%, rather than 2%? That tells the greedy oil companies, "Oh go ahead. Charge anything you want. We will mortgage our homes to buy gasoline, because we are just so addicted, to just driving around, pretty much aimlessly for no good reason."

    Some greedy oil monopoly CEO I saw on TV, claimed that ethanol, perhaps the "gasoline" equivalent of gasoline, gets less gas milage than oil-based gasoline. You can burn I think, up to 85% ethanol, if it ever gets available and cheaper, if you have a "flex-fuel" car, something that is slowly and painfully starting to show up in the car market. Is that claim true, or is he just lying to protect his oil monopoly?
     
  8. Pronatalist

    Pronatalist Banned

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    Oh, I forgot to say, I rarely ever water the grass, probably a much huger waste of water, than washing off a driveway. Grass is a weed anyway. It grows, almost no matter what, unless it is really dry.

    Why? Well what's the better, more productive work, for being "lazy?"

    If I water my grass, then I will just have to mow it sooner. What's the point?
     
  9. steely_j

    steely_j Member

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    and there is just so little water on this planet too. if there is anything we are in need of its water. since there is so little.
     
  10. Morning Myst

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    Exactly! Soon, we will have a water shortage, just like we have now with oil.

    Source: http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid552.php

    In other words, if we're not careful now, we're fucked.

     
  11. streamlight2

    streamlight2 Member

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    But dirty water, or salty water can be treated and purified.
     
  12. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    I used to be a postie stomping up driveways and now I know why the driveways got longer and longer as the year progressed.
     
  13. steely_j

    steely_j Member

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    the water goes back around, u know that right or? the whole sycle of the water.
     

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