Did anyone predict this election fiasco?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by lode, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    exactly. listen to spencey. homeboy knows what's up. god is all of us and everything..combined kinda. but there is not one God. ehhhh you have to feel it to know it. and yeah i want god to fuck me. hard and then harder.

    and i can prove everything scientifically bitch. :D
     
  2. lode

    lode Banned

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    It's a date. [​IMG]
     
  3. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i need some references
     
  4. DroopySnoopy

    DroopySnoopy The ORIGINAL Dr. Droop

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    So Spence, do you think there is anything that construction companies can do to better prepare structures against attacks like this from happening again in the future? Or is it more likely that the strength of attack will only increase as well, moving proportionately with the advances in site design and stability level, leaving us no better defended than we had been in the past?
     
  5. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    people are going to be using cell phone guns now
     
  6. DroopySnoopy

    DroopySnoopy The ORIGINAL Dr. Droop

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    Scary thought. As if preteens weren't lethal enough as it was. :D
     
  7. lode

    lode Banned

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    Well theres only so much that can be done against a large airliner, which is essenitally a missle hijaked, and the priorities of the steel truses of the twin towers weren't designed for anything like this. More to prevent buckling from more commonly encountered forms of stess.

    I was reading a while ago an overview of structual recomendations about new designs for buildings in light of the failures, but it was a bit technical for me. I'll try to dig it up here.
     
  8. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    date- yes. so you are god? nice to meet you. :D
    references- my ass... lick it and stfu. :D im always right.
     
  9. lode

    lode Banned

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    Heres the whole quote of this one before it was taken out of context.

    I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-leve] flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.

    -Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory
     
  10. Face Eater

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    I love how this argument is still going on without rat here. LOLLERCAUST.
     
  11. lode

    lode Banned

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    That's the one.

    http://www.fireox-international.com/fire/structdesfire.htm

    Like I said, some of it's a bit technical, but it's fairly accesible.
     
  12. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    teehee.
     
  13. lode

    lode Banned

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    I assume he left when the conversation turned to my cock.

    I was searching for the article when I stumbled across the full text of one of those quotes, so I figured I'd throw it in.
     
  14. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    matty and spencey sex. hot.


    :D

    :wank:


    :wank:



    ......
     
  15. Face Eater

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    I bet hes still awake frantically searching through his files in a dim creepy basement looking for ways to refute your claims.
     
  16. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    stop. haha. just stop.

    :wank:
     
  17. Face Eater

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    I'm not saying thats a bad thing. I would just spend more valuable time wanking, and my collection would be of porn and not Alex Jones books and newspaper clippings.
     
  18. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    That's a tough one. It's difficult to protect a building from a large jetliner. Terrorists could resort to even larger aircraft than those used on 9/11 if buildings were made more resistant to collapse.

    There are probably some approaches that could be used to reduce the chance of a fire-induced collapse after the initial damage of the aircraft impact. One might be to have columns distributed throughout the floor plan. The WTC towers had 60 foot lengths of floor between the central core and outer walls that were not supported by columns. Those unsupported floor trusses are prone to sag in a fire. When they sag, they pull in on the walls. The walls of both the north and south towers, which were initially straight just after the aircraft impacts, can be seen caving inward slowly during the fires. The inward caving reached about 4 feet which was enough to fully buckle the walls and start the collapse.

    Before the WTC, skyscrapers used a grid of columns distributed throughout the floor plan with no long lengths of unsupported floor. However, such buildings don't have the attractive columnless large open-plan floors that allow space to be divided up to suit a tenants needs (one of the innovations of the WTC towers). It becomes a matter of balancing cost and versatility with resistance to collapse.

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    The WTC tower design also affected the escape routes. Because of the core-in-tube design of the towers, there were only three main stairwells and all were in the central core. All three were destroyed in the north tower by the aircraft and no one escaped from above the impact area in the north tower. One stairwell on the northwest side of the core of the south tower was passable, the one furthest from the aircraft impact, and some people used it to escape.

    If more than three stairwells are distributed throughout the entire floor plan, as opposed to all being in a core, chances would be higher that some stairwells would be passable after an aircraft strike and fire, which can save lives. However, more stairwells reduces rentable space and floor space flexibility. So there are trade-offs of efficiency and safety.

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  20. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    not that anyone asked but i was just thinking- the reason i refuse to debate in the 9/11 DRAMA is cause nothing is proven either way. ive researched and the more of that you do the less you know if you come into it not biased, but with an open mind. its all bullshit. no one KNOWS for sure what happens. fanatics on both sides are just as bad. i know 9/11 isnt what they say it is (was) but... from there it becomes more n more elusive and my reflex is exactly what i say to things in life that are DRAMA... dont care.
     

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