Democracy in Iran

For thousends years there is no democracy in the world what so ever. Just like that. Sorry mate.

 

Mousavi what exactly do American citizens know about him? Do they know that he was all for the taking of US hostages:

http://middleeast.about.com/od/iran/p/mir-hossein-moussavi-profile.htm

Do Americans know that he supports Hezbollah?

Or his stance on a nuclear Iran:

And you think he will provide democracy to Iran? His party is green so it must be good.

 

Why wouldn't he provide democracy. Mousavi is a religious conservative too, but he's also a reformer. Allowing people greater political and social freedom, ending restrictions on satellite ownership and media controls, advocating a more dialogue with both the west and Israel, transferring control of the army from the supreme leader to the president while making the government more democratic is a pretty good platform to run on.

and in 1981, saying it was a bad idea to take the hostages would've been political suicide in Iran

 

So anything for a political ambition? Shit that makes it right? What about his support of Hezbollah? What about the fact that he is actually a religious conservative?

Even if elected does he have the power to transfer the control of the military? I would bet the Supreme Leader would have something to say about that.

And as to market driven policies:

 

He can TRY, that's why they're called reformists in Iran and not liberals, because they're not liberals. This is an election between 2 very different wings of the same party basically

 

So why are American public getting so wound up over this? I would bet with Mousavi's history once elected he won't even try. It's a lot like our health care debates, nothing really practiclal is going to happen anytime soon.

 

The American public as a whole doesn't give a fuck about this

 

I am seeing more and more green arm bands, thing is they have no idea who Mousavi is. They are basing their support on media hype. It's the in thing to do! Many of them still want to take out the turbans that's the level of their attention span.

 

Those people are just trying to be part of a movement. Most people who care have actually been following this election since before it happened.

 

If he was no threat to the system they wouldn't be murdering his supporters.

 

Haven't seen any proof that wholesale murder is going on. To the contrary the first reports I heard were that the demonstrators attacked official offices. If peaceful demonstrations turn violent one can expect a response from those entrusted with the protection of the civil society. That's what happened at Kent State. And it would appear untrained gun happy police in Iran responded the same way.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxG551jAins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itnsYvJ6Bzw&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hfcuHwPt84

 

look it this way, he can't possibly be worse than ahmadinejad and khamenei, and since a revolution starts who can tell how things will end? hope is better than a finger up your asshole and a gun to your head. then maybe i am horribly wrong and mousavi is a werewolf.

 

I hope he is like Gorbachev, who didn't mean to end communism.

 

ahh yes kill those dissenters that are destroying our nice grass!
dude find anouther analogy or give it up!

 

or maybe im mis interpeting your post?

 

No, that's pretty much what he said.

He is even claiming that the young woman who was shot dead was some sort of fake.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir-Hossein_Mousavi#Domestic_policies


i think that in Iran's political context there is enough in Mousavi's schedule to hope for something better than what we are looking at, now.

 

Who the fuck cares about democracy?! Iran takes the first place in supply of caviar. The best restaurants of France use only Iranian caviar and U.S. wants to occupy this country like they occupied Iraq. If you look at the ex-Soviet countries, you'll see that the democracy level there is very low. Their democracy is only officially on paper but in real life there no democracy, believe me!

 

to put their filthy yankee hands on strategical reserves of caviar and put France under caviar embargo as a punishment for leaving them alone in iraq?

please stop this nonsense. im not a big fan of the U.S. but i dont really think that obama wants to follow bush's doctrine unless he's craving to commit political suicide. just imagine the reactions of those who voted Obama because they were just sick of iraq.