Day of Rage on Wall Street! Protesters Occupy Brooklyn Bridge!

From what I can see, it's very fragmented, but most of the protesters appear to be champions of big government. Most of them are young, idealistic leftists, or perhaps that is only what the media is choosing to show (I doubt it). They know something is wrong, but they have no clue what is behind it or exactly what they are protesting. It's not simply greed and capitalism. It goes way beyond just greed and capitalism. Those are cliche diversions. Money is about control, regardless if it's capitalism, socialism or communism. Lefitsts and socialists do not understand this. Neither does your average Republican-voting right wing teabagger.

 

This is by design a leaderless protest so that one person cannot be picked out by authorities as the leader. This ensures the movement will not be stopped by the arrest/imprisonment of a few people.

 

Well, there may not be one person behind it per se, but what about the special interest groups now lining up behind it? These are very well orchestrated protests. Almost too orchestrated it seems. There is money behind it, and it has to be coming from somewhere.

 

So, let's see if I get this right...

The only way this could be a legitimate movement by normal people, is if those people were not involved in anything else in their life?

 

That is a very feeble interpretation of what I said, but whatever. Believe what you will, and I'll believe what I will.

 

This would be a good place to learn about the General Assembly held at Occupy Wall Street.

http://nycga.cc/

 

No, it is exactly what you are saying.

Yes, there are obama supporters in these protests, yes there are hippies, yes, there are capatilists, there are relgious (of all sorts) there are military and ex military, there are students and children, mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers, aunts uncles, cousins, lovers, fighters, loners, crackpots and every other aspect of person getting involved in this...

That is not an example of this being a fragmented group... that is an example of the inclusiveness of the group. It is about the 1% at the top, controlling and abusing the 99%.

That 99% includes pretty much everyone most of us have ever met, those we like, those we don't. those we agree with and those we despise.

The place where the division comes from, is from people like YOU, picking out single elements of the group and saying "look! they are all obama supporters"

So, the only question left to ask, is are you doing this on purpose? Do you for some reason feel that you will benefit by creating and fostering these divisions?

 

There were no special interest groups attending the rallies I was at, and if there were they would be allowed to speak their piece like everyone else. This, as I said before does not really matter, everyone has their own things they are protesting. A special interest group trying to infiltrate would receive no more special treatment than anyone else protesting. As far as being well orchestrated, the ones I attended were not well orchestrated , but will get better with time and practice. The main occupation of Wall street was starting to be planned several months ago, and there is no huge amount of money behind anything. Signs and posters mainly come out of pocket of the protesters.

 

Decided I should go back and watch this.

I got sick and stopped while he was harassing the perhaps slightly misinformed but obviously very bright and on the conversational ball girl with the student loan sign.

There's stupid people, like those who think the first amendment is alive and well, but that guy dug his own grave, the girl with the sign was on top of things, he was twisting things to make her sound dumb. YES we need to speak up at the government that serves the 1 percenters, because right now the 1 percenters are the ones speaking louder and being listened to.

Chronictom pegged you about right in his last post. By your own logic, it's very suspicious how much effort you're putting into distrusting these people. By your own admission they know something's wrong, but you seem to keep implying that because they don't spend as much time in the internet's conspiracy-theorizing backwaters as you, they don't have a RIGHT to go protest to fix it. You're not doing ANYTHING, but because they don't know the whole story (which, if they learned it, wouldn't STOP them from protesting, surely) it's not okay if they go and make a show, and try to start a movement for good.

 

This is NOT about polarity, you're the one introducing that.

The tea party is an evil fake group. Me saying this does not mean I think this is on the "other side". It just means this isn't the tea party. You're the one with all the left/right jargon. This is made up of all types.

Stop trying to make everything fit your own narrow polar view of politics. You can identify with a party, as many there do, obviously, and still do NONpartisan things, like protest evil.

You almost seem like a provoking agent acting as part of this "divide and conquer" strategy you keep speaking about :mickey: When different people come together, you call it "fragmented", because they're not all the same! You're the very thing you're complaining about.

 

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/03/corporate-greed-protests-headed-for-to

Toronto Sun;

 

Occupy Canary Wharf London!

 

Or, maybe someone with a vested interest in not seeing big money fall.

 

No, I wouldn't mind seeing money abolished altogether, actually. It just seems that a lot of the protesters think they're fighting "the man" when many of them are in support of what Warren Buffet, a global elitist, proposed, which will do NOTHING to raise the taxes of the ultra rich (who don't even pay taxes), and instead place that burden on the already hurting middle and working class. Obama supports this, and so does Wall Street (which owns Obama). It appears many of the protesters support this, too, because it's dressed up in populist rhetoric designed for the masses to gobble up without ever really thinking about.

Speaking of the Warren Buffet proposal, these protests are perfectly timed.

 

Amen to that! I don't know if even that would do much good, but it's a start. It makes more sense than protesting Wall Street, because at least it would draw some attention to the REAL financial power center of the world.

 

Back this up.

Although it won't add taxes to those who are truly at the top, it will not effect the middle class or the working class as far as I know, and sounds more like someone trying to add bullshit to cause further diversions...

 

Define middle class. Small business owners who make $200,000 a year are not exactly upper class. They're not exactly middle class either, but 90% are not millionaires or billionaires as the propaganda would have you believe. In the end the working and middle class people will be left holding the bag, and we'll see even higher costs, more jobs lost, more debt, and higher taxes passed on to the working and middle class. Warren Buffet is all for higher taxes for the rich because most of his money is in offshore banks anyway, therefore isn't taxed. But the ignorant American public doesn't care, because hey, it sounds good.

But this isn't even the issue. Taxes are not the issue here, it's the monetary system that many seem to be in the dark about. Many of the protesters don't seem to get this and are content spewing Democrat party talking points.

 

I tried to address the financial issue earlier, your little buddy there took it as an attack on jews...

 

Good article, but feel free to pass it off.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Occu...munists_And_Socialists/15972/0/38/38/Y/M.html

 

commie protesters? Uh-oh.