Day of Rage on Wall Street! Protesters Occupy Brooklyn Bridge!

The United Steelworkers Union of 1.2 million members has announced its support of Occupy Wall Street.

http://boingboing.net/2011/10/01/united-steelworkers-union-north-americas-largest-joins-occupy-wall-street.html

 

Watching the livestream, someone (Lorenzo) who was arrested at Brooklyn Bridge reports that they police told him there were 700 - 800 people arrested there yesterday. Those arrested included journalists and lawyers. He states that the police lead them on to the roadway portion of the bridge and then arrested them for obstructing the roadway and disorderly conduct.

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

 

Sounds like entrapment to me.

 

Is this the liberal version of the tea party emerging ?

As far as labor unions , they should have lead this protest . Instead of now playing catch up . Where have they been for the last 20 years , when America needed them most . They broke apart with infighting amongst themselves , and split the A.F.L. / C.I.O.

Labor unions have such a black eye to most American's , I'm not sure how their input (other than sheer numbers ) can have any positive momentum on this protest . In fact , they will do nothing execpt make this protest more political , and give the republicans more ammo to try and make this a political debate between the left and right . And that's not how this started . It started as pissed off American's , which will now become political and end in nothing .

Most "labor " unions today are sell out pieces of shit . Whose only interest is more dues money . While most of there rank and file membership goes unemployed . Their "leadership" gets rich , while they give nothing back to their local unions . Just more corrupt big business .

America DESPERATELY needs A NEW labor movement . With REAL , new labor unions .Not these things that call themselves "unions " today . Because they couldn't be farther from the ideals of true unionism .

 

While I personally hate unions and think they are indeed responsible for a some of the income disparity between people, simple fact is that they are made up of people just like us... Those who are looking to make a living and support themselves.

The leadership of the unions are just as corrupt as the politicians are, however this movement isn't going to grow to the numbers it needs to without them jumping in as they have.

Wether or not they corrupt the movement is up to those on the ground. If they let them come in and take it over, then yes, it would all be a waste of time.

I don't think they will though.

 

In the chats for the livestream, a lot of people are talking about the Fed and the Banks and so on. I thought people would like to read this;

ALL THOSE WHO ARE ANTI FED/BANK; read this http://www.economywatch.com/economy...-federal-reserve-is-a-private-bank-20-11.html

The Rothschild brothers wrote that in 1863.

 

Are the timing of these comments synchronously correct?: that Baby.

 

rather than contribute my own low key yowling to the mass of it, i would ask this question...

first, let us presume that the Fed and Wall Street-perhaps even some larger 'great white sharks' are 'brought down' by the minions of 'whatever' in the streets.

what medium of exchange will they set up to facilitate trade? or might one suppose that we should be studying europe during the dark ages to foresee our own future? some of the 'i don't like it' is amusing. the aftermath may be less so. i am still thinking on egypt's future without mubarak and libya without mummer gaddafi.

or perhaps, some of those in the street simply don't care about 'what's next'....they just want to see things fall over. if so, they are fools.

 

I think the point is that what we have now, isn't working. Not on the scale of one country, or one political party, but globally.

People are tired of being on the short end of the stick, to the point that they will grab any other stick they can see, regardless of wether or not they can see whats on the other end of it.

 

They're claiming that it is. Apparently even the NYTimes said that some of their own reporters were arrested because the cops said they could go on the bridge and then arrested them.

I'm kinda bummed there's not much more I can do except actually go over there which I can't afford to do. But some of the celebrities I twittered have supported it now and I think I helped it get attention in the beginning by calling media stations like crazy and spreading word about it like crazy.. so now I guess I'll just wait and see what happens :2thumbsup:

Though I wish I could be there and actually participate...

 

anti semitic conspiracy theories...

 

This is based on what? You mean because the Rothschild's were jewish to say something bad about them must be antisemitic?

Just because you may automatically think everything relates to prejudices such as you have, it isn't true you know.

Seriously, you are such a troll it is getting to be funny, especially the part where you don't think you are...

 

I think a big part of the problem is the general silence in the face of fairly obvious abuse of police power... and kinda fits into the discussion about the "United States of Apathy" in that the media-manipulated masses deem it acceptable to overstep the bounds of decency in dealing with legal protests against the blatant selling out of any chance we might have to have a productive go of it here and the systematic deprivation of our voice that is mislabeled as freedom of speech.

I'm listening to a local talk show where the protests are being discussed and the host used the pejorative "dirty hippies" in characterizing those participating and perpetrating a contrast in justifying the Tea party. The station airing the program is corporate run (CBS radio) so it's no big surprise that the sheeple are being propagandized to oppose the very people being vigilant enough to call out the oligarchs for the bullshit they have effected dating back to when the housing scheme was cooked to precipitate this "crisis" which furnished justification to throw trillions of dollars at the very sectors that perpetrated the collapse in the first place.

it's okay to cross the line in dealing with these "lawless thugs"- Big Brother is taking care of you (and how!)- just sit on your hands and cheer on your oppressors. Listening to the "man on the street" callers illustrates the enormity of what needs to be accomplished to cut off the money thugs from furthering their agenda. It's easy to let the scale of the problem just take the wind out of your sails.

 

I get a chuckle out of watching what msm was putting out in place of this story at the start...

Michael Jackson, Casey Anthony and so on. To me, it seems like they kept replaying any type of story that really got people riled up, at anyone except the government...

 

lol.... oh wow.

 

Divide and conquer...

Taking a moment to observe the process objectively, it's hard for me to not admire the sheer genius of it... the media furnishing not only selected "news" but determining how it is delivered as a faction of the very entities it should be reporting on.

it's so vital for those protesting to not allow themselves to be goaded into rock throwing or any violence. Rage is a touchy energy source- useful to those we protest should we allow that rage to spin out of control... but controlling it is an enormously difficult task- a truth I am all too acquainted with myself.

 

Global problems require global solutions, or so the people in control would say.

 

Thats's a large part of our problem...

Although there is some sense in it, it loses it once you start to put thought into it, which is why it's such an effective tactic with most people.

We need to solve the problems around us... If you are sitting if florida, you should be trying to solve problems there, those in autralia can solve theirs in australia... and so on... Unfortunately, because the way the system works now, that can't happen. Western/'civilized' countries go around the world raping others resources, transfering parts of their problems to the underdeveloped countries, plus causing all sorts of new ones in the process... So by that token, they should be helping to repair the damage they have caused...

I think I should be clear about something, as I have been posting a lot in here, with what may seem like hope for the protestors...

I admire what they are attempting to do... I think it represents the best chance we have seen in a long time to get things fixed... However.... what I know of the enemy, makes me think that a lot of people are going to get hurt and nothing will change.

lol, having said that... I have seriously been considering a trip to toronto... Faint hope is better then none after all....

 

What point are these protesters trying to make? That Wall Street runs the show (it doesn't)? That capitalism is bad (I say all monied systems are bad)? Most of these people are socialists (socialism is the false opposition to capitalism) who are pro-Obama and basically champions of big nanny state government. They believe the government is good and that the corporations are bad, when actually the corporations and the banks control the government and BOTH are bad. Some of these protesters might be addressing real issues, like the Federal Reserve, but from the video clips I have seen, by and large it seems most of the protesters are naive kids and don't even know what they're protesting. Even if there are people protesting who have an idea of what's going on, I believe these protests are anything but grassroots and are being used for an ulterior motive that is partly political. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but when I look at some of the groups that are behind this protest, and people like Michael Moore (a person who constantly spews deception and half-truths) getting behind it, I have to ask questions.

 

Well, I look at it just about the same as I do libya.... any chance that the people are going to stand up and force a change is a good one... no matter how slight that chance is....

We have two paths in front of us.... one is down the road of paranoia, total police states and zero freedoms, the other... well the other sorta wanders off into a dark forest... I don't know what is down that path... But I know I don't want to go down the other one for sure.

If you think you know of a better way to avoid that first path... I'm all ears...