I know you all have general concern, but I never meant for this to be an "intervention" so to speak, I can control my habits as I have just quit smoking weed after 2 years of almost daily use.. been 4 1/2 weeks from that, and I've slowed down on alcohol too. But opiates are special to me, and I don't appreciate that comment acga5, fuck you ok. Just because you feel bad about sucking cock doesn't mean you have to take it out on me. But thanks to the rest of you for actually using logic and giving me some insight. I will continue to use them for now, and I don't think I will ever go to the needle as I have a general fear of them and would have no way of getting any. My tolerance for now isn't too bad, and yeah I spend about 15-20 for a good high. I appreciate it though, really.
as for whoever said they wont get addicted to drugs because they switch every two weeks you are a fool. try that plan for about ten years and see wat your body needs to wake up in the morning. almost every addict ive ever met started out exactly like your they didnt wake up at sixteen and say " im going to become a heroin addict today" instead they said im going to get fucked up today then after a few years of trying a little bit of everything eventually they find there drug of choice and settle into a steady habit. if you can find anyone over 35 that does wat u r doing id be surprised. plenty of highschool kids do the same thing but that only lasts so long. not to mention with 52 weeks per year youd probably have tried all the drugs u know of or can get ahold of in less than one year. eventually u get sick of the party life and all u want is ur immediate satisfaction or ur fix. i dont know a single junky that their first drug ever became there drug of choice unless ur a pothead or an alcoholic. nobody does heroin when there in 9th grade well most dont they experiment around for a little while till u find wat they like and usually u stick to it. just wait a few years and see how well that plan works out
seeingblind I thought the same exact thing. What a stupid ass statement, Just a person who thinks they know it all when it comes to drugs. you are right not one addcit ever said I will get addcited. They all think it will never happen to them until it does. I was the same way no one could tell me shit I knew it all even though I did not I was a young punk smart ass. I thoguht my Drug addiction was under control when in fact it was so far out of control. later in life in my middle 20's reality slapped me upside the head It took me alot of trips to jail and rehab and my parents and girlfriend I was with for years giving up on me to finally see how bad of a drug addcit I was.
All these threads always do turn into an intervention but you really need to realize almost any path in opiates can lead to some deep shit. Look at your mom risking her medical license she probably at one time worked very hard for, just to get some shit to fix up her habit. Unless you have some other money flowing into the house hold I am unaware of don't you think it was a little bit bad of her to not realize she DOES have a family to support with the money she is/was making? I could be all wrong, I do not know your mom and how your family is paid for, but I'm sure my point is still pretty valid. If I am right, don't you see how people quickly lose their values over addictions? Doesn't it feel shitty that already you need to almost tripple the dose you were originally taking to get fucked up? Do you think your tolerance is going to stop at that? One day you'll be really fucked as far as a tolerance goes, and like everybody says here will mostlikely be paying out of your ass. Sorry I can not offer you advice to your real questions as I have no experience with opiates and do not plan to fuck around with them. Read some heroin trip reports on erowid from the addicts willing to explain what they were. Even with friends who thought they could manage smoking cigarettes, talking to me like they had the shit under control, and this is only tobacco we're speaking of. (But atleast this habit only damages spare change not pay checks). They always start off exactly like you do thinking they have their shit under control. And for awhile they usually do. They always start off bumming cigarettes until they purchase their first pack. A pack will last them a while.. for a while (as they slowly purchase packs). Soon they start ripping through them so fast they wonder how the hell they did it. Then it only gets worst from there, and boom, another regular cigarette smoker for ya'. An addiction is an addiction. Maybe you'll succeed and be the junky who never was. Maybe you'll be a junky and get past it one day. But, no matter what you do, there will always be your warm memories of being fucked up off of euphoric/opiate drugs, and it'll probably bug the shit out of you. And even if you become a junky and then a recovering junky, lets get back to your real life that isn't revolved around drugs? So what, you going to be working a 9-5 now being the cleaned up guy? I don't think most colleges will want you around with shit like that on your record. Also, I don't think you fully understand opiates. I personally don't know every fact, but I'm surprised nobody laughed at you when you said you quit smoking pot after smoking for years. Go watch half baked and see when he goes into the rehab clinic talking about his weed addiction. 100% true, that's all a weed addiction is in physical and mental comparison to opiates. I think you can trust me on this observation that you are unaware of how a true opiate addiction is compared to a true 'weed' addiction, and if it really was a true weed addiction you probably would have never quit anyway. "Bud Man quit weed we should all just shut up now he'll be safe building his tolerance on OC's and staying addiction free!" And hey bro, sorry if I came off harsh. They all do start off sounding like they know their shit and have it under control. This shit destroys lives and I don't think you reserve the right to think out of all the people who fuck up using this shit that you will be better. That's damn straight that nobody wakes up wanting to be a junky. I'm sure the thought of what they live through now would of seemed a shit load more depressing before they even touched an opiate. But yeah, whatever. If none of this is true one thing will be true: You're tolerance is going to stunt like a mother fucker. Addicted or not to get that same feeling you will be paying out the ass. And I'm sure by the time you are paying big bills you probably won't mind dropping the same amount on a harder opiate so less will have to be taken for the same effects, and then it'll be what I said above starting there. Or you are the chosen one. good luck with that
Thanks for the response swoosh, I took to heart what you said, and I do understand my tolerance is more then it was, and luckily for now I have money to support that. But once again, I was not looking for intervention just general answers to how to help with cravings. But everyone turned it into a big show, and I have no reason to respond anymore to post after post about how I'm going to be a junky, hey maybe I know this. With the weed thing, I was just showing that If I have determination, I can quit something. I know opiates are different, there is sickness involved and horrible feelings. People can overcome anything, if they desire too. But I'm sure you are all so much better right? You all know what is best for me, how I should choose my habits and such.
Yeah every post here about opiates turns into a big show and I just thought I could pitch in good on this one personally, seemed as much as most of them were trying to help you they were missing a few key points that could make them sound a lot more convincing. I don't wish that kind of shit upon anybody and really wish you would stop thinking now that you wouldn't mind and would like to accept a fate that definitely isn't yours if you do something about it now. You want an answer? Cold turkey the cravings and put your money on some acid and try thinking about opiates while your tripping then tell me if it does anything for you, which it should, you seem like you're smart, but that doesn't mean you know what you could be getting into. People can overcome anything but when your life is in the shit hole getting out doesn't mean it's gone for good and the feelings of euphoria you use to have without caring will never disappear [you just ignore it, basically what rehab is besides getting rid of the physical symptoms, the mental ones will always.. ALWAYS.. be there]. Trust me on that one. Nobodys calling themselves better, or at least I'd assume such, esp. if they are telling you stories off PAST experiences bro lol. But an addicts an addict. Theres different kinds but theres one thing in common, they fucked up their life and they are addicted to something that maybe they secretly wish could of never happened while they aren't junked up. You know what else makes you a target? Your young (my age). You got school and college and all that shit they messed up on, while they are returning to a dead end job, you could have been somewhere in life from the stereotypical stance [college earned job]. Rehab makes sure you definitely lose the physical symptons but can only help so much with whats in your head. What an example with something that is less addicting? My mom was addicted to cigarettes smoking 2 packs a day for over a year. She quit for 4 years and after saying so much shit the thought of smoking cigarettes they won her back, you want to tell me that nothing lives on past the physical part? Peace.
fuck this thread makes me want some lortabs WHERE MY WATSONS AT!? seriously, though, salvia is lyyyke waaaay better mangg!!
Damn you're so similar to a girl I know, merely based upon this simple blurt. I don't even know how I'm best friends with her, lol. How about we all pick a serious subject to joke about 'seriously', all emotional factors unattached. She'd be down.
Based upon this simple blurt she looks like a chick who's not to bad looking at all thats about all to me ???
you are assuming because you "quit" weed you can quit opiates... you are an idiot punk ass kid who wont listen to anyone because he thinks he knows best, im not saying that i know everything, but at least im open to change
Bottom Line is that this man ^ is 100% tell the REAL truth about opiate addiction.. My friends there is only one TRULY addictive drugs and that is OPIATES...the only drug that makes u 'dope sick' which feels like the flu times 1000! physically u hurt BAD, ur joints, bones, muscles, everything...u get cold chills, lay in a ppoool of sweat, anxiety, no energy...and if it gets bad enuff i have seen friends literally puking cuz they didnt have any opiates and were goin into w/d's...its some nasty shit man and NOTHING u want to go into, the good effects are fun and dont seem to have a 'come down' at FIRRST! then once ur addicted u gotta use em just to feel NORMAL..way to expensive way to addictive...just stay away and stop now while ur still ahead...it ssounds cliche but its the real truth my friend..
seriously, though, quitting opiates is nothing like quitting weed. you can quit weed after smoking it religiously for eons with next to no withdrawal symptoms, give or take a little bit of insomnia or anxiety. however, withdrawals from opiates are horrible - vomitting, headaches, insomnia, anxiety, chills, hot flashes... any fool knows it ain't the same. if you're truly worried about your addiction, and, as you are craving it, make no mistake -- you ARE addicted -- you will quit immediately, before it gets any worse. don't touch heroin. as soon as you even blow it, it loses its taboo status and a world opens up. opiates are a bad way to go, period. if you're into drugs, how 'bout the fuckin' real ones? how 'bout expanding your consciousness every once in a while? every time you crave your dumbass watsons, how bout you bust out some freud, or jung, or huxley, or alex grey, or alan watts, read for hours, then find yourself some strong LSD, turn on, tune in, and drop out. and i'm not just a pretty face. appearances deceive.
Freud? ugh :tongue: haha Agreed on the Jung though, of course. Go for some Richard M. Bucke if you can, talk about some fun stuff
Why are you guys still responding to this, I love how everyone on this site changes the topic to something completely different than the original question which I got very few actual answers to, hey you like LSD and expanding your mind.. good for you, its not my type of drug. I never said I knew it all either ACGA5, calling me a dumb ass kid was idiotic by your own part, and you've had only negative things to say to me. The truth is, I do NOT care what you have to say about addiction for me, that was not part of my post. You guys keep babbling on about it, hell I know most of it is true but I did not ask about how opiates will fuck my life up.. I thought this was the opiate forum, not the bash the users of it area.
Well, ok so your asking how to help with cravings. The truth? There is no way, you either get high or you quit. I used heroin and morphine daily for years and went through all the hell of addiction. The only way out is to quit and deal with the pain until you get over it. The cravings never go away, I think about getting high all the time. But you have to have the willpower not to. I would suggest drinking, but if you are craving opiates, typically your stomach wont want any alcohol in there. And no need to get angry at the posters here, its a free forum bro we can and will post what we want. At least the advice about LSD was not off topic, she was throwing you a suggestion to help you get past the nearsightedness of relying on pills to feel content. You dont have to take the advice but really, theres no need to call her out on it. As for being called a dumbass kid, well that is just plain rude and insulting.
i just think it's time for everyone to wake up, sorry if you're not ready... maybe next generation i was merely trying to suggest something better.
I know, and I've tried acid it is fun and can show you plenty about yourself if you want it to or not, I'm just saying it's not my type of drug. I don't handle pot and shrooms or acid too well anymore, its too much strain on my mind after awhile, and yes you are right relayer.. I tried* drinking the other night and puked all over my porch from 4-5 shots. Normally from alcohol, it takes alot more for me to feel like shit.
Good luck Kid, and zilla939 I guess you are not just good looking ?A chick with good looks and some brains behind those looks is becoming a pretty rare thing in this World.
Yea man I remember that feeling. All you want to do is drink a 40 or some shots to dull the edgy cant sit still and be calm feeling, and your stomach and throat refuse to cooperate :tongue: Good luck my friend, youll be fine, Im sure
