Crack, PCP & Meth

it's your word agains his

can we agree to disagree now?





hi-oh!

 

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ok do u think i faked these..or use it just for show?
(thats for metelhead)

but yea believe what u want..like i said you'll learn when your lying in the gutter

 

umm do you read the posts on this board? I'm always on these forums and while soaring eagle does have a lot of spelling errors (for a damn good reason), i have NEVER had trouble reading his posts. I always can understand what he is saying. There are often posts from 14,15,16,17,18,19 year olds that are nearly impossble to make sense of. I often have to spend a large chunk of time attempting to discern what they are saying and I'd consider myself fairly intelligent.

As for this argument, I used binge drink a lot during my first couple of years at the University. Now I rarely have more than a couple drinks a month. I personally don't find anything wrong with the occasionally drink. A person might sometimes be able to drink responsibily, however, there's a thin line between the two. It is very easy to let one drink turn to two, two to four, four to eight, etc.

 

How can you tell someone's losing an argument? They start with that sentence, and then proclaim themselves victorious.

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I still don't care about those personal stories, they're easily fabricated, and it seems like you're not one to be bothered by the embellishment of truth "I know many hardcore 15 year old alcoholics" turned to "She's on the forum".

You remind me of those people who campaign against marijuana. Soaring Eagle and his war on alcohol...

 

yep...

 

I think these two need to crack open a beer and share a hug. I saw these two drunk bums hug each other the other day, they were like "I love you man! Your my best friend!" Only people who do that are drunks, gays, and rainbow family. Oh, and bums too.

 

where r u from
seriusly, i'll be there

 

all of his photos load just fine. If you read soaringeagle's posts he talks about the once shambled neighborhood where he lives, high drug use and alcohol abuse. In those he talks about about the young teenage kids having alcohol problems. Knowledge is power.

 

well fool you only have my word then that i never fabricate stories, everything i say is truth

yes i believe alcahol is evil & should be illegal.. do i think that theres noone whocan drink responcibly? ofcourse not, iknow plenty of responcible drinkers.. but i also know responcible drinkers who've had 1 too many & drove..

i know responcible drinkers who decided to celebrate new years by getting really fucked up (hey its only 1 time they've veen good all year) & ended the night with a concussion & shattered nose

i've known responsible drinkers who at theyre wedding reception acidently lit the tablecloth on fire

i've known responcible drinkers who had a heart condition..my closesst freind in fact..she only drinks responcibly, but if she doesnt stop drinking she will need a transplant within a year..but..she still drinks

responcible drinking is no drinking if u realize giving up your couple beers a weeekor whatever helps others also stop & saves thousands of lives
if noone drank..anywhere ever (except the ocasional red wine for health reasons) that is responcible drinking

you arguing about how alcahol is not dangerouse..is that responcible behavior if some 15 year old reads it & thinks hell yea its coolto drink..&? they end up with life long alcaholism?
face it, your 19 you have no clue where your future will take you.. if your so deffensive about your drinking already, how can u be sure your not on the road to alcaholism?

i'm not sayingg you arent a responcible drinker u claim to be, but you sure qare deffensive about it &? that is a bad sign

ok now u can claim i dont know any of these people either..lol
want phone numbers to verify my stories?

 

not for me


but i don't need convincing

 

Your examples were clearly not responsible drinkers. People who drink responsibly know what is too much, and don't put themselves in such situations. Your example shows people who thought they were being responsible at best.

I'm not defending my drinking in particular, I am defending the consumption of alcohol in a responsible form. Something which I would not feel the need to do if someone didn't openly decide to declare it evil in the darkest form.

As far as phone numbers, sure, but realize that our timezones are off a bit, so you'll have to excuse the hour.

- Kidding. Don't need to verify, I take them for what they are, net stories - true or false, or a combination of the two.

 

hahaha well yeacome on down..truthfuly the brick over the head for a quarter thing happened to a girl iknow right around the corner from here, but it was a few years ago..she had a softball sized chunk of skull crushed & pushed into her brain..she was damned lucky to survive

but yeasure come on down, its not been as bad lately, mostly cause they closed down the 1 deli where all the crack addicts & alcaholics hung out
but stillits a crazy neighbourhood but full of some of the most colorful characters..lol its a total trip..but yea can be depressing too with all the waste of life

west philly..budd street..right in the heart of the hood if your white u might have a 10 year old pull a gun on ya..but if u just fgotothe garden we built & pull a couple weeds..everyone will give ya respect & leave ya alone
theres a thread in gardening bout it, called urban gorrila gardening ior something the gardens lots of love
and if metelhead chooses not to believe this too hes welcome to come campthere &? see what alcahol can do
oh & trust me digging a garden in a lot where they just collapsed the buildings intothe basements & covered it with clayis extremly hard work & i destroyed the tendons in my wrists digging in dirt thats 80% brick
guess metal wants medical records to prove that too?

 

thats my point theres no such thing as a responcible drinker because all it takes to be irresponcible is to drink just 1 more

youve never been drink? never felt buzzed? never had more then 1 or 2 beers at a time?
never celebrated your birthday with a 6 pack?
never done a few shots of something harder then beer?

if u drink..even responcibly theres always the chance that just this 1 time i'll have just 1 more...& that 1 more might be 1 too many that gets u killed

 

Are you for real? You my man need to get a grip on the reality that everyone does not get plowed and head for the car or the nearest brawl. Outside of Budd St. Gardens alot of us limit our consumption of adult beverages to the confines of our premises.

If you are going to be the "fun" police preach to the kids bringing herb to school, firing one up in the car... etc.

Metallideth is correct in that alcohol CAN be used responsibly and that anything CAN be abused. Moderation in all things. His opinion is just as valid and less jaded.

Just say OV!
B!ll

 

There is such thing as responsible drinking, don't kid yourself.

I've been "drink" many times, drunk even. When I drink, it is often a few beer, or a pint of something and never have I wanted to fight someone because of it, never has it caused me to do anything life threatening. I've never had the urge to hop in my car and kill someone, or anything of the nature - before you unload another drunk driving story.

If you wake up in the morning, there's always a chance you'll slip on the previous day's clothes, and theres always that chance that you'll hit your head on your headboard and live out the rest of your life brain damaged. I find this comparable to your story.

 

Sure, and after that, you can come up to Nova Scotia and I'll show you what responsible drinking is. If you could email me a pdf @ jamie721@hotmail.com i'll verify whether or not you have put forth a valid claim. K thanks.

Edit: (already double posted so...) Bill hit the nail on the head with that one, do tell, eagle, can marijuana be used irresponsibly? Or is the the school system that is in the wrong by not allowing weed on school grounds?

 

pots used irresponcibly alot yes..alcahol CAN be used responcibly yes
but..it often isnt..& the tendency is even if the intentions there to use it responcibly, the nature of the beast leads to irresponcible use
you just admitted to using it irresponcibly
just because you havent yet had any bad experiences in your short limmeted experience doesnt mean your irresponcuble use wont lead to problems in the future
you admitted to drinking till your drunk..when your drunk you lose control of your rationality
how long have you been drinking anyway? a couple years?
come back in 10 years and tell me how many fights youve not been in..how many times you didnt drive drunk..how many times you didnt do something completely stupid while drunk

your argument is based onlyon the fact that in your short limmeted experience you personaly in your sheltered lil life havent gotten into fights or killed anyone while driving drunk

but..you have drank till drunk..right?

people when drunk do drive & kill ppl right?

just cause so far you havent in no way means you might never

if u drink till your drunk..theres a chance..a much higher chance..you'll do something stupid

the longer you drink the soggier your brain gets..so come back when you have a bit more life experience & then we'll talk
better yet..go to the local bar & talk to someone whos been a drinker for years

 

My Man,

I am damn near 40 myself. I have worked in the projects, been shot at, seen crack destroy my old neighborhood. I have been there done that. I am from Detroit (finally moved) and have been to Philly so I do understand. The environment in which you find yourself is coloring your opinion a bit which is expected.

As a drinker for years - I can say that yes I have been drunk. Blurry eyed hug the bowl? Not in years. Frequency of drinking - 1-2 beers before dinner or a whiskey and coke or 3 fingers of Black Label. Since getting married (and now the official driver) I have not been out and had more than 2 beers with dinner (that includes weddings and Christmas parties btw).

You are confusing recreational drinking with a habitual crutch (such as any drug or substance can become). Who actually goes and sits in a local bar that doesn't have strippers or a band?

If your circle of peers acts such perhaps you are with the wrong crowd and should evaluate who you associate with.

The drunk driving example is a poor one as people kill people in cars completely sober. Drunk drivers, sleepy drivers, high drivers, speeding drivers all have killed. Ban the car?

Be responsible in your choices,
Bill

 

Are you alcohol addicts aware that public safety officials say that 50% of all automobile accidents are caused by drunk drivers?
Many which result in injury & death, often to people who are maimed for life/dead, children orphaned, who had the misfortune to be on the road at the same time as somebody who's had 1--just 1--too many.
So drop the song and dance that people don't drink and drive.

 

Hi RD,

First off thanks for the many tips and tales good stuff

Drunk Driving is terrible and is a reckless act which unfortunatly happens - I have sympathy for the poor innocents involved in such. I never condone driving under the influence of any substance (or bad emotion for that matter). The discussion, which unfortunatly side tracked a good thread, was that alcohol can be enjoyed responsibily.

Sorry my man - SE to an extent you are right and so is MD. Generalizing an individual and their level of responsibility is better left up to the individual themself.

BTW that ridiculus DWI law (in Mich they passed that driving while high - or they think you are high law) was supposedly based off a couple of traffic fatalities.

Pass it to the left!
B!ll