Countdown To Parliament's Brexit Vote

If a 2nd vote was to leave, it would be clear that it meant leaving with no deal, and then thats what the government would have to do. They won't do it now because they fear the consequences would hamper their chances of re-election, they can't get a deal through Prliament. So it a kind of paralysis, and nobody seems to have a clue other than another vote.
You got any big suggestions?

 

How can you know that? Polls show completely opposite outcomes at the moment.

 

Because That (if you look at My earlier link ) is what Cameron said would happen and was on the polling slip When I voted
polls mean Shit as we Found out Before !
TBH I dont really care what happens anymore I have lost trust in the whole Shit fest

And for anyone to say We need the EU more than they need us Obviously has no Idea how much it Costs us (and not just Financially )

 

Maybe not everybody who voted saw it that way. You're assuming all leave voters saw it just as you see it. At least that's the impression you're giving.

I didn't listen to Cameron much when he was in office, and I'm dammed if I'll waste my time doing so now. He was a con man as they all are.

 

You're stating a subjective perception repeatedly until I acknowledge it as objective fact? Yes, you're wasting your time.

Hahaaa, oh well, if Cameron said so

 

Did you Vote in the Referendum

 

So Mally is acknowledging the voters were lied to before the first referendum but still has faith in Cameron s words at the time... uhm yeah. You're not fooling yourself at all.

 

Its not Subjective it was black and white and it was Explained over and over IN or OUT You were not Here !

 

Yes, Bill already said it: your statement is subjective. You don't talk for every other leave voter.

 

You really have no Idea what you are talking about I said Both sides lied I never said I had Faith in Cameron I said (and still do ) That the choice was IN or OUT

 

I voted remain as you must have been aware.

 

OK so then you knew what you were voting for It was on the paper ! you heard Cameron say it was a "once in a lifetime vote " and there wont be another vote ?

 

Maybe reread our posts.

You're saying stuff like 'you're not making sense at all' and 'you've no idea what you're talking about', but you're the only one who thinks so here so maybe its on you that I don't make sense to you.
You also don't seem to get that if both sides lied I still don't contradict myself when pointing this out:

In other words you seem to resort to trivial tactics to make me sound less sensible.

Just to be clear (so you don't go that route again): you yourself said you kept believing something because Cameron once said so. You said that. This is obviously what i ment with you having faith in Cameron s words. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I give up on you Asmo ! You really don't need me to make you sound "less sensible " Nothing Trivial about Whats going on here and all you seem to ever do is try to score points or have the last word !
Well you know what ! carry on I cant be arsed with you

 

You are beating around the bush on this one

Cameron is irrelevant now.

I really dont see how a Brexit is not going to happen now. No Instant resignation from May, probably a general election soon.

I will not be surprised at all if The Torys get voted back in with a higher majority, with May still their leader.



It now looks Brussels is holding them to ransom

We are in that zone again where the media is trying to 2nd guess what the public are thinking. The majority of the average joes in the UK are going to take it as about patriotism now

 

I didn't brought him up as being a relevant factor these days. I was merely reacting to Mally.

 

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Like most of the statements made by UK politicians, I assumed that it was mere verbiage, and subject to change anytime it suits them.

 

The thing is we got a leave vote, you can say they were lied to the other side can say they were not but you had a leave vote, if you dont leave people will feel they can never trust referendums . and everyone we have we will have to have second and third votes . you could leave and then campaign to try to re-join . if you had a second vote your not sure you would get a majority to stay

 

Not just about trusting referendums.

Calls for a 2nd referendum imply a certain amount of voters got it wrong, or were too stuipid the first time. Then who are the ones to make that assertion?

Its an attack on the voters themselves, and you will get a backlash on that

 

Cameron was a guy that didnt agree personally with a democratic decision, had a tantrum then left.

Didnt want to serve the people if they dont agree with him.

He will go down in history as that guy