Conservative Bullshit

an interesting proposition:
If you were deliusional, would you know? Could you?
How do you know you aren't delusional right now?

 

This is the conservative bullshit that libertine is talking about. You have taken his words, which are basically a broad generalisation and chosen to nitpick about the meaning without thinking about what he is actually intending to say.

 

You wanna get nit-picky? Ok, let's get nit-picky.

Do you create money? If not, who does?

Money is of a GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION and you earn it by working or gambling using public and private resources (which were purchased with government-issued money) as well.

The Corporate CEOs use more (and destroy the environment that EVERYONE has to live with) so, they should pay in more. And they do. It's not THEIR money. Who's stamp is on the coinage? That's right-- the government's. Your energy + public resources = YOUR WEALTH which should cycle back through the system.

Although it took years from me to grasp this--the Progressive Tax is superior to any other kind of tax system. Although, I do believe in Sales Taxes for States and other localities especially those which promote tourism to help relieve property tax burdens.

 

doesnt the fedral reserve control the issuance of money? at least in the states. and it is a privatley owned entity isnt it?

 

I know. It was written that way for a reason.

 

I hardly think you can consider the Fed a "privately-owned" entity. It was created by Congress to be the central banking system of the U.S. The board is controlled by State governers and the chairman is appointed (nominated) by the President of The United States. It is financially "independent" because it runs a surplus, due in part to its ownership of government bonds.

But, it is still subject to oversight by the Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute.

In other words, it does not fit the description of a true "privately-owned" business or institution.

 

I think you should read this interesting analyses on the Federal Reserve System.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/fed_reserve.htm

This excerpted quote from Rothschild is particularly revelatory on the fraud of it all...

 

Regardless, money is a part of government and the public resources used by the corporations justifies the higher taxation they should pay in.

 

Have you read the link, Libertine? The point is the fraudulent interest WE, the average citizen, are forced to pay daily on our own money thanks to this private banking cartel system. Interest that is regularly expatriated away from our nation to cover an unnecessary debt burden.

It is both unConstitutional and, in practice, unaccountable to the US citizenry due to its secretive closed door decision-making process.

 

Oh, you mean like our government in general?

 

The power, influence and control of The Fed and the elite banking interests which control it the central contributing factor as to why our government processes have become as equally elite-centric and secretive.

Anyhow, I leave it for you to read the information provided above.

 

It is no secret that big business is in control.

But, I think the general message of the thread has been swayed...

 

Was just responding to your assertion about The Fed not being private in nature.

Carry on and ignore it if you prefer, seems to be the way around here.

 

Is anything "private" in nature?

 

They just decide to do it when it is appropriate, pick a number, enter the funds into the system, and voila millions of new money for us to borrow from the banks that the Fed distributes it to. So they don't need taxes. That money is blood, sweat, and tears, tax money. It's dare I say, real money. And they take it away on the pretense that they need it. Why don't I totally buy that? The origins of the Fed are very curious, and the flukey coincidence that all the big wealthy families set up charitable foundations just beforehand doesnt seem right. On a related note, the US is still legally owned by the British Crown, and the denunciation of that fact by the founders was not legal. It's all written down somewhere, Virginia? Can't recall.
I loved the book, 'Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat idiot, and other observations' by Al Franken. If you get a chance the index at the back is worth checking out, the list of definitions tickled my funnybone.
I get the feeling that the two political parties are too similar to matter anyway. Doesn't it seem that they do basically the same stuff and just spin it differently? And when they need to have one or the other in power, it just coincidentally turns out that votes add up to the right choice. It is getting pretty obvious though.

 

great link lick! wonder if there are any disbared lawyers here that would like to comment! in a different thread of course !

 

ER, wrong again.

 

LOL, excellent post Libertine!

 

Nit-picky!

NIT-PICKY!

You poor baby.

I have a couple of offers for you...

[1] I have the title to a 2005 Jaguar -- black with leather interior. It's in perfect condition, and I'll sell it to you for $1000.

[2] I also have the deed to 3000 acres of rolling hill country on high cliffs overlooking the Mississippi River. I'll sell it to you for $1000.


Now truth is, all I have is the title and the deed, which i printed myself. The actual car and the real estate don't truly exist.

On the other hand you seem to think that all one needs to do is run the printing press, and value is created.

I REALLY WILL sell you the deed and/or the title.

 

A second thought...


If your method works, then we have the solution to just about every problem the world faces.

Money for AIDS Research?
Money for Food and medicine for every human being?
Money for adequate housing for people -- Forget adequete --- Money so everyone can live in luxury!
Money to build hospitals and staff them.
Money For EVERYTHING!

Just Print Money!

NPR never has to have another fund-raiser and Every problem is solved!