Congress to Censor Hip Forums!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by skip, May 11, 2006.

  1. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    yaknow this whole censorship thing is one of the main reasons that saying "it takes a villiage" made me sick to my stomach. It takes a family to teach the children, not a goverment to to decide what information they can or cannot have access to
     
  2. Rebel_1

    Rebel_1 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Now this kind of stuff is great, Im all for the freedom of kids to look up stuff like this. In my post earlier Im getting at pornographic pictures. Minors should not be alowed to view those. If you want your kids to be able too view porn, well that your decision, Everything else from my personal standpoint I dont mind.

    I will tell everybody another thing too, Im deffinately not a right winger, I dont care much for the rights politics. Larry Flynt is my cultural hero and as an adult I love my right too view porn and will stand up for that and my right too view this site and other sites like it but at the same time i feel that minors should be limited, when it comes too porn they should not be allowed. And really that is not going against this site because I see on here you have too be 18 too view it anyway, So really I guess I have no complaint as far as this site goes. :sunglasse
     
  3. shaman sun

    shaman sun Member

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    Well then, do continue. :p
     
  4. Rebel_1

    Rebel_1 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    The only sites im for banning in the schools is pornography. Everything else should be left alone. :sunglasse
     
  5. Rebel_1

    Rebel_1 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I totally agree with you here Skip, because they can actually get there hands on them, they have direct access. I might not have come accross the right way last night, I agree with everybody having the right to view what they want, except for child porn or young kids being able too view pornography and get involved, Im still against that. I read the forum guidelines again and I agree with everything there.
     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    But what IS school? You make it sound like some insulated Madrass where only approved information is allowed to be disseminated. Indeed that is how many would like it to be.

    However the TRUTH is that the Internet is NOW OUR SCHOOL. It's better than ANY school ever was. The combined knowledge and opinions of the entire world are at our fingertips.

    So WHY should we limit ourselves (and our children) to a small slice of predigested, filtered, disinfected pie? The same old worn-out tired ideas taught by people who have accomplished nothing of significance themselves.

    Here we have the future of education, but our leaders see it as a threat, NO DIFFERENTLY than the Chinese leadership sees it as a threat. A threat to their power, to their program for the masses.

    As long as the Internet remains free, it can empower all those who've been marginalized, disenfranchised, persecuted, isolated, and programmed. Including children!

    That is their fear. A whole generation who THINKS differently, who sees thru the program, who comes together and instigates change from the bottom up. Our power is LIMITLESS thanks to the Internet.

    An excellent example was how the hispanic children organized themselves over the Internet and cellphones to protest the immigration laws. Now if those kids are banned from using sites like MySpace at school they would never have been able to be so spontaneous and have such an outstanding turnout.

    Do you think it's coincidence that they're pushing this law so soon after those protests? No it's the PROTESTS they fear. It's grass-roots organizing and activism they fear. It's the exercise of your FREEDOM OF SPEECH that our government MOST FEARS. They fear this far more than they fear Al-Qaeda.

    Our own people are seen as the enemy. Even our children. Keep them ignorant is the plan. As I've said this is a declaration of war on the part of Congress. We are all potential enemies. That is why our every activity is being spied upon by our government.

    That is why websites are being censored. They know that as long as the Internet is FREE, WE HAVE THE POWER to overthrow them, to organize spontaneously and massively.

    It's time we exercised our powers to exorcise those in power!

    Peace!
     
  7. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    we wont ever overthrow jack squat untill the masses start voting in an informed and responsible maner.
     
  8. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    You're joking right? How would that make the slightest difference when the only two vote counting companies are run by brothers who support Bushit republicans? Get REAL!
     
  9. Chinese Troubadour

    Chinese Troubadour Member

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    We should not have ceosorship at all. Even in here the hipforums, most of us do not like Bush, but, pro-Bush posts, as long as it's polite and reasonable, should be allowed as well.
     
  10. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    As long as this site is being censored, I declare the right to censor those who support our being censored!

    Why should we allow them a right that they deny others?
     
  11. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    because two wrongs do not make a right, and one of those people might just have a point of view we have not yet considered, and in an oddly ironic kind of way thats why censorship should be avoided.
    discutions with only one p.o.v. are just mentel masterbation
     
  12. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    those people have power because of irresponsable voting. when it gets down to it, we ARE a democracy and the mayors of today are the ones who can affect change in the future.
    We an blame whoever we like, god, the devil, rush limba, but if everyone who could vote did, bush would never have become pres.
     
  13. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    Because we're better than they are.
     
  14. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    because YOU want to be the change that you want for the world:)
     
  15. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    ^^ now that was good answer
     
  16. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    Well, whether or not you agree with the whole 'it takes a village' mentality, in many ways it does take a village to raise a child. I absolutely think (and I've posted this dozens of times) that PARENTS first and foremost ought to be raising their kids. Sadly, there are too many parents who - for all sorts of reasons, DON'T. Realistically everyone who comes in contact with children plays a role in influencing them - their teachers, their peers, religious leaders, ... there are so many on the list.

    The unfortunate thing is that there are too many kids who don't get the parenting at home, and unfortunately there are other people who have to intervene a little in doing some parenting for these kids. It's not always right, I agree, but at least it's being done.


    Absolutely. I agree with Skip in the sense that kids at school are being over-censored from the world around them.
     
  17. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Problem is, most ppl are unaware of what changes would make a better world. By definition, conservatives DON'T want change! So if there is NO PLACE free of their propaganda, you will never see the changes you wish.

    Sorry, but some people need to LEARN what their actions lead to. If it's censorship, then perhaps they'll understand FIRST HAND what it means to be censored. If I can help them learn that, then it's a first step to changing the world.

    You can sit on your asses, discussing the pros and cons of issues while your freedoms wither one at a time. I won't.

    Now is the time for all good hippies to put conservative Xtian fundamentalists in their place. It's now or apocalypse. Your choice.
     
  18. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    Skip, with all due respect, and I agree that probably hipforums shouldn't be a site necessarily banned from schools, that there might be some middle ground between your point of view and conservative Xtian fundamentalists?

    There are those of us (like me) who don't think that everything should be a free-for-all, and yet I don't consider myself to be conservative or a fundamentalist at all...

    To make an extreme generality that if one doesn't have your opinion is some kind of a conservative Xtian fundamentalist isn't very fair. Because if you really were, one could also argue that you're equally closed minded to other's opinions.
     
  19. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    I'm on board with Cerri, and Skip.
    We all know we have younger members here on the Hip Forums.
    The Key is they are exposed to some DECENT people who aren't out to hurt them.
    You older members know that Angelgodiva alone has saved lives.
    We've all watched these people GROW!
    This site is like a GOOD family. Don't censor INFORMATION.

    I told Sen. Ried my thoughts on it.
    I'll change parties if he doesn't vote my way.
     
  20. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Cerridwen, with all due respect, reading your posts, I'm struck by how programmed you are by fundamentalist Xtian values. Probably a LOT more than you realize.

    It permeates our culture to an extent that we can't even find our basic humanitarian values due to such a heavy overdose of conservative Xtian values that we've been fed as children and adults.

    We've been lied to and the truth of our common humanity has been hidden from us. How else can you explain how Xtians can support a war on Muslims whom they've never met, and have never done them any harm.

    We've lost the MOST BASIC HUMAN VALUES, because we've been programmed by schools, churches, governments, peers & parents to believe the common illusions of Xtian society.

    It's time to break thru these illusions, or we will all suffer the apocalypse that Xtianity is breathlessly waiting for, while our Xtian leaders work fulltime to create that scenario.
     

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