CIRCUMCISION (A sensible discussion)

Discussion in 'Genitalia' started by SeamusHeaney, Oct 7, 2005.

  1. Badmoonraising

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    Cutted, please stop saying you are lay sex therapist. Everybody is laughing at you and shaking their heads. Look man, you have issues. That's okay. Just let them go. Purhaps you should consider going to a real Sex Therapist. But please don't call yourself a lay sex therapist anymore. Please.
     
  2. Badmoonraising

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    Cutted, please stop saying you are lay sex therapist. Everybody is laughing at you and shaking their heads. Look man, you have issues. That's okay. Just let them go. Purhaps you should consider going to a real Sex Therapist. But please don't call yourself a lay sex therapist anymore. Please.
     
  3. Badmoonraising

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    Cutted, please stop saying you are lay sex therapist. Everybody is laughing at you and shaking their heads. Look man, you have issues. That's okay. Just let them go. Purhaps you should consider going to a real Sex Therapist. But please don't call yourself a lay sex therapist anymore. Please.
     
  4. Peet

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    I'm uncut but i like cut, they taste nicer:)





    I have been told they are a cut above the rest:D
     
  5. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I was talking about studies in men that were circumcised after they had already had sex with their uncut penis, and the conclusion is that sex still feels just as pleasurable after being cut then when not being cut. The fact remains you can argue the ethics of it, but people always spew out how sex can't be as good because the foreskin is chopped off and those are nerves and yada yada, but the point is there's no actual basis to back it up. When it comes down to it all it really is is a matter of medical/cultural reasons, in terms of sex there's no real scientific basis to show either side has it better.
     
  6. Cutted

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    I am a lay sex therapist, and hundreds of people have been satisfied with my advice. This is a free internet forum, so if they have a sexual problem, they can accept my advice, or go see a doctor about it, or do nothing, or even take advice from you. In any event, your insults are demeaning -- to you.

     
  7. Badmoonraising

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    Cutted: actually my post is not intended to be an insult. It is quite genuine. Sex is a primal instinct. Humans are complex creatures. What goes on between peoples ears and with their bodies is rather serious stuff. You say hundreds of people have been satisfied with your advice. It is this type of statement that concerns me. Because someone may take your advice, does not mean that it is good advice or even correct advice. I could even be damaging advice.

    I don't know what formal training true Sex Therapist require. But I am quite confident they belong to a professional association or even a College of Sex Therapist. All professions are regulated by an organized governing body. Be it a College, a Bar or Association. They set rules for professional behaviour and conduct. I doubt that a true Sex Therapist would give advice on a forum like this.

    Cutted you can give all the repetitive opinions or advice you want. It is your privilege to do so. But please do not refer to yourself as a Sex Therapist, Lay-Sex Therapist or any kind of Therapist.

    This is a suppose to be a sensible discussion regarding circumcision. The fact that there is so much discussion around this topic indicates how emotional it is for some people. As I said before, and many may agree with this; we should not, we must not, cut off normal, healthy, functioning tissue off of babies. Morally it is not your rite to do so. We do not alter peoples bodies without their consent.

    Cutted, please do not refer to yourself as a Lay-Sex Therapist. It is very clear you have an agenda. You have this agenda because (Cutted) you have issues.

    Be well my brother...
     
  8. Cutted

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    Badmoonrising - you say that "we should not, we must not, cut off normal healthy, functioning tissue off of babies. Morally it is not your rite (sic) to do so. We do not alter peoples (sic) bodies without their consent." What gives you the right or training to offer this opinion? Is it merely because you are uncut, and trying to justify that? Have you read extensively on the subject, and looked at the studies supporting different views on this subject, including the three recent African studies of over 10,000 men, and the 25 year New Zealand study? Have you conducted any studies or polls yourself on this subject? I have. Every baby has healthy tissue cut off without their consent after birth - it is called the umbilical cord. And some males (or their parents) choose to have the foreskins cut off or reduced, for religious, family tradition or health reasons, or merely because it looks better. They also may get their ears pierced, nose straightened, or braces put on their teeth, all for the same reasons.

    I will continue to call myself a "lay sex therapist" because that is what I am - people can accept or reject the advice I give as they want. Most of the problems presented to me are not earth shaking - they usually concern premature ejaculation, inability to get or maintain an erection, becoming a better lover, inability to retract the foreskin, how to get or give a G Spot orgasm or a clitoral orgasm, pain during intercourse, guilt over masturbation, and for young men, generally how to have more confidence with females. But these problems are of great immediate importance to those who have them, and many of the people who seek my advice feel they have nowhere else to go, and would only open up about their problem if they can do it anonymously. And they feel a great relief when they learn that their problem is a common one, and is often relatively easily fixed. The internet is a great resource, and venues like the "Love and Sex Forum" have opened up this subject area tremendously and have provided a lot of helpful information to persons with real or imagined sexual problems.

    And if I can't help someone, I will refer them to their family doctor or a medical specialist or psychiatrist, and urge them to follow through on this contact for their own well being and peace of mind.
     
  9. Fastswitch

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    Cutted, I do believe you are getting red in the face! I have learned that when I am forced (usually by my own chatter or actions) to justify myself over and over again, I need to rethink some basics. Especially when my adversaries are increasing in number. Why not take a sabbatical?
     
  10. 4skin

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    Cutted, please do not continue to refer to yourself as a Lay Sex Therapist.

    Many of the Hip Forums members are quite young, and judging by the spelling and grammar, many may not be very well educated.

    I’m guessing that the majority of the younger readers do not know that the definition of a lay person is one who is a non-expert. A person without training; a person who is non-credentialed; a person who’s skills are not recognized by any authoritative entity.

    In my opinion you are doing a disservice to those whom you profess to be helping.
     
  11. Fastswitch

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    Bravo, 4skin; Bravo!!!!
     
  12. Cutted

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    You guys (4skin, Fastswitch, Cloud 7, Badmoonrising, etc. are like leeches, swarming to the attack of anyone whose opinion differs from yours. As a lawyer for many years, I have learned to just "brush off" emotional and illogical attacks like yours, just like Barack Obama does.

    You cannot stop me. It's a free internet, although some of you are getting close to being banned.


     
  13. Badmoonraising

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    Cutted: you are not truly being attacked here. You must agree the overwhelming consensus here is you should not refer to yourself as a Lay Sex Therapist. I believe the other three (4skin, Fastswitch and Cloud7) have been very logical and clear. 4skin's last post was brief and very succinct. I believe this gentleman offers us wisdom.

    The objection is in your vernacular. Why don't you simply say; I.M.O.. In stead of "as a Lay Sex Therapist". In-my-opinion sets others at easy. I means you are not putting yourself above everybody else. Also in your last post, you said "as a lawyer for many years.." What does this have to do with the discussion? I.M.O. this too is an effort on you part to put yourself in a position of superiority to everyone else. You need to ask yourself why you do this. This is not an accusation or attach. Just an observation.

    The use of the word Lay is really only encouraged when used in the third person. If in conversation we refer to someone else as a Lay Mechanic or Lay Clergy. Lay-What ever. We do this as a compliment to acknowledge that they seem to have in depth knowledge or expertise in a particular field. In my observation. All of the people I would refer to as a Lay person have been quite modest of this fact and are usually quick to point out that they are not experts. These are the people who garner true respect.

    Comparing yourself to Barack Obama only illustrates my point further.
     
  14. buckscc

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    Speaking about circumcision, I just have to tell you guys this story.

    When I was in the military several years ago, I use to work the back gates of the base with the Philippine Air Force. At one gate, the kids from the local village use to play and we would talk with them. There were two brothers, Jerry and Terry that use to run up the street and get me pop and something to eat for a tip. They would always ask me questions and we’d joke with them.

    Well, one afternoon I had just gotten to the gate and looked over, Terry (age about 11-12?) was taking a piss by the dumpster, which was common there. Now, I wasn’t looking at his dick, but as he turned around his dick was still out and it had something big and white wrapped around it. So, I ask him, “What the fuck is on your dick?” He stated, “ser-cum-se-son” in his native accent. It turned out that a doctor had come to the village and circumcised all the male boys (ages 0 – 15?) and wrapped a cloth around their dicks as a bandage. I’m sure if I were his age I wouldn’t want someone with a knife whittling on my pee pee.

    Well, later, I was in the gate shack and looking at my new issue of Playboy. Well, Terry walked by and asked me what I was looking at. At that time, the devil popped into my head and without thinking what the results might be, I quickly picked up my Playboy and held up the “Center Fold”. Poor Terry quickly grabbed his dick and ran off yelling “Oh! No!, Oh! No!”

    I quickly realized that I shouldn’t have done that and the consequences that it might have had caused Terry, but, for some reason, the devil made me do it.

    It was funny though, the way he ran off holding his dick and yelling.
    I guess you had to have been there. The Philippine Air Force guys were laughing about it.
     
  15. Cutted

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    In the Philippines, being circumcised is a rite of puberty, and is regarded as an honor. Almost all males in the Philippines (Muslim or not) are circumcised.

    With you guys who are dominating this forum, I feel like an Obama supporter who walked into a room of rabid McCain supporters and was then mugged repeatedly. You are so aggressive in your vocal opposition to anyone who disagrees with you that others are afraid to confront you, and you feel as a result that your position is vindicated since no one comes on line in this forum to support my position.

    And I see little difference between someone who calls himself a lay clergyman and a lay sex therapist. Both are dispensing advice which may be helpful to the person seeking that help.

     
  16. Sig

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    I am cut. Wouldn't want it any other way.
     
  17. 4skin

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    I absolutely and totally agree with you Cutted!

    Neither a lay clergyman nor a lay sex therapist has received the training needed be recognized, credentialed, and certificated as a real clergyman or a real sex therapist.

    Both are dispensing advice which may or may not be helpful to the person seeking help. In fact, the advice may very well be harmful!

    Are you suggesting that I should rely on a lay lawyer to manage my legal affairs?
     

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