StpLSD25 In the video he says: "1 or 2" I'm sure that isn't the only time he has said something along those lines. So where did you hear/read him say that he wants 'Government' (an important point) to implement population control - limiting families to 1 (an important point) child? Even if you just consider America, it isn't happening, and the population isn't shrinking. He is entitled to his own opinions. But look at reality for a little while. You are just rattling off old meaningless points, imho. Well clearly not enough money to get his population policies in place. How old is that video above? 18-20 years old? It does matter. Population control has nothing to do with 'them being all the same'. You believe lots of things. And seem to spin the conversational wheel quite often.
From pages 6 and 7 of the pdf (which are pages 5 and 6 of the body of the document), Those two bolded statements automatically provoke "conspiracy" concepts (mistrust, scrutiny to the point of criminalization). Let's consider "chemtrails". I believe that it is the responsibility, duty and obligation for "the government" to answer to the people and inform, intelligibly (in a language anyone can understand), just what exactly those chemtrails are. This is how to make *domestic tranquility*. There is a platform in the United States called the State of the Union Address. I charge the United States with negligence, failure to live up to the standard of the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States (domestic tranquility). How EASILY they could put minds to rest about those fkn chemtrails that have SO many people upset! Aren't chemtrails an example of a "conspiracy"? Sure are. There's only one way for governments to be found not guilty of malevolence: come forward and inform the people. The State of the Union Address is the platform by which the government can respond to the people. Easy. When people are not forthright and forthcoming, they are guilty of some sort of deception. Deception gives rise to .. and is fuel to the fire of .. conspiracies. Show me the domestic tranquility in the world. Ha! We don't have it, do we? No, we have conspiracy, extremism, terror, war and "disinfo". Governments of the world will remain guilty for as long as they refuse to be forthright and forthcoming. "transparency", has been the call for many years now. I think they deserve the black cloud over their heads, the black cloud called conspiracy.
What is the punchline? If someone or something is controlling your mind without your knowledge or consent then how do you protect yourself? I think the suggestion here is kill the damned government before it multiplies, that is of course assuming you haven't already been infected and find yourself responding to unreasonable paranoia. I would check and see first if I am able to control my thoughts on a good day. Bet you can't, but only because you haven't practiced usually being consistently impressionable.
And yet it's important to understand what's happening to you, and how the government is using their Voice of God Weapons to the detriment of thousands :hide: Hotwater
ginalee I'm not sure you can compare what is being spoken of in the pdf and the e.g you give (chemtrails) - but lets give a shot. It also says: 'discriminate credible information from its many imposters.' And also: 'Indeed, some conspiracy theories can in some cases have a grain of truth to them, or be based on some facts, and then be wildly exaggerated.' This thread being an e.g of both. and your e.g being another wider e.g, too. Your e.g An e.g: http://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/ The website claims to show pictures (I'm not talking about the sample results page) of 'chemtrails' over London and Manchester (and other areas), but fails to inform it's audience where and when exactly the pictures were taken, and also fails to provide any scientific data related to those pictures/videos. If there is as much (chemtrails) as they claim then surely they would have overwhelming evidence, masses of data - rather than a handful of results from off the shelf kits. A total lack of complete transparency. How do we know if the pictures were taken away from an airport - for e.g? Obviously there is going to be a lot of trails in the sky there. If they showed evidence that the concentrations of trails were away from commercial flight paths - then that is something to think about. But strangely they don't. To be honest, it looks like they have given up trying to post more 'evidence'. A bigger group: https://www.************/WhatintheWorldAreTheySpraying?fref=nf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBz4Zcx3ZKU"]WhyInTheWorldAreTheySpraying FullHDVersion - YouTube http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ One wants you to buy stuff and the other does similar things as the first e.g. I'm obviously not going to be able to go through the entire link... ...but what did spring out is the BBC documentary on 'global dimming'. It mentioned that after 9/11 the sky in certain areas was clear, and that this was probably the result of flights being cancelled. You can watch to see exactly what I mean. http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/dimming-the-sun/ Imho, it is more likely the millions of flights that take off annually around the world are more likely to be the cause of weather changes. But they say it is an: 'all out assault on planet Earth by the climate engineers.' Even though the documentary talks about commercial flights. You want governments to explain every single e.g given? Good luck with that. Another e.g is the JFK shooting. How many thousands of documents - by the government - have been released about that? And how many people do you think have read any of it? Of those that have, how many people do you think have been convinced or dismissed it? Another e.g: HAARP According to HAARP's management, the project strives for openness, and all activities are logged and publicly available. Scientists without security clearances, even foreign nationals, are routinely allowed on site. The HAARP facility regularly (once a year on most years according to the HAARP home page) hosts open houses, during which time any civilian may tour the entire facility. In addition, scientific results obtained with HAARP are routinely published in major research journals (such as Geophysical Research Letters, or Journal of Geophysical Research), written both by university scientists (American and foreign) and by U.S. Department of Defense research lab scientists. Each summer, the HAARP holds a summer school for visiting students, including foreign nationals, giving them an opportunity to do research with one of the world's foremost research instruments. How many of the 'chemtrail experts' do you think have been to that facility and spoken to the people that work there? And how many 'chemtrail experts' do you think read something about it's patent and immediately said it's a secret plot to change the weather around the world etc etc etc? The 'chemtrail' theories and the depopulation theories are harmless. I don't see terrorists plotting to blow up HAARP or blow up condom factories - do you? Those theories you can easily look into, and come to your own conclusions. Pick out an e.g in the PDF that you would wish for a government to be forthright about (Ignoring the illuminati/One World Government as they are done to death)...
How does a government solve something like:http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...ar-seleka-anti-balaka-201442764926967931.html For the Muslims of CAR, it's 'leave or die' Thousands of Muslims in the Central African Republic have fled as UN chief warns of 'ethno-religious cleansing'.
I already picked the right one, lmao but anyway, poor Brittney. Strawberries, biotch. Strawberries. lol Oh and yes, I can say with certainty that there is spraying. Gotta love googster!
The second link: A video that’s gone viral claims to show footage of a pilot who forgot to “turn off chemtrails while landing” the aircraft. The video, uploaded Sunday, shows mist coming from the back of what appears to be a passenger jet. However, the air appears to be very humid in the video with fog all around. It likely means that the “chemtrails” were just fog–or wingtip vortices–trailing the back of the plane. The video doesn’t offer any context, including the type of plane, location, or when it was filmed. Like I was saying earlier. No transparency. The third link: When a jet engine is spewing out hot, humid air into an atmosphere that is cold and has low vapor pressure, the result is condensation. The water vapor coming out of the engine quickly condenses into water droplets and then crystallizes into ice. The ice crystals are the clouds that form behind the engine. This is why the streaks are called contrails, short for "condensation trails." To help explain it, scientists liken it to seeing your breath on cold days. You may have noticed that puffs of breath dissipate quickly on dryer days. The same is true of contrails: When the atmosphere is more humid, the contrails linger, but when the atmosphere is dry, the contrails disappear more quickly. This explanation makes sense. But, as author and airline pilot Patrick Smith tells readers, the contrails consist of not just ice crystals and water vapor but also other byproducts of engine exhaust. These include carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides, sulfate particles and soot [source: Smith]. Some point out that these, in addition to the extra cloud cover, can have negative environmental effects. And conspiracy theorists have nicknamed contrails "chemtrails" under the suspicion that the government is taking advantage of this scientific phenomenon to secretly release other substances into the atmosphere. I said: 'discriminate credible information from its many imposters.' And also: 'Indeed, some conspiracy theories can in some cases have a grain of truth to them, or be based on some facts, and then be wildly exaggerated.' It looks like you ignored the first and went with the second. I'm not quite sure why you posted a picture of those links :/
How does the gov solve it? It's relocation or the anti-Balaka will finish their plot for revenge. Everybody wants them out. The UN does AND the anti-Balaka wants them out. How would you solve it?
I asked you to pick out one, not if the e.g you posted was the right or wrong one. It was an attempt to move frwd. And posts a picture that has been photoshoped. mmmm. You can say with certainty that all the e.g.s used in my links are 'chemtrails' orchestrated by geoengineers?
Did you really just give me a review of the second and third links, unnecessarily? The point is that there are over 2.9 million results and the very first one is *conspiracy theory* It is the responsibility, duty and obligation of the government to answer to the people, in regard to chemtrails. Period. Ah, and please note: I did not type "conspiracy" in the search field. I typed ONLY "chemtrails". In other words, I wasn't looking for conspiracy but that is just exactly what google returned. Number one in the list.
They would say they have. Your chemtrails are their contrails. This is from 2000 http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envir_policy/media/contrails.pdf Your picture shows commercial airliners, right? My basic point is: Regardless what a government says, these people don't really want to listen, and are far from transparent themselves. The above is not at the top of the list because it is old news - nearly 14 years old.
The pre-9/11 link is irrelevant in today's world. Chemtrails are not contrails. Contrails have been around for a long time but chemtrails are new in the past decade. There is a discernible difference, as chemtrails produce chemclouds (a thick blanket of unnatural clouds) while contrails do not. The government is guilty as charged. If they did their job, this conversation would not be happening. But it is. The black cloud of conspiracy is over their heads because it belongs there. There is no domestic tranquility, odon. Let them clear the air, in as many ways as that applies.
ginalee Do you mean something like the e.g on page three of the report? (what they term 'persistent contrails') Persistent contrails and contrails evolving and spreading into cirrus clouds. Here, the humidity of the atmosphere is high, and the contrail ice particles continue to grow by taking up water from the surrounding atmosphere. These contrails extend for large distances and may last for hours. On other days when atmospheric humidity is lower, the same aircraft passages might have left few or even no contrails. The e.g's they use look remarkably like the e.g's in the links I posted. Maybe post an e.g of a 'chemtrail' / 'chemcloud' - don't forget to post where it was taken, when it was taken, and the chemical make-up of the trail/cloud. You seem to be basically saying: 'It's not that, It's this' - which seems remarkably convenient to me. But yeah, I await an e.g.
You already know my "position" on the matter: it is the responsibility, duty and obligation of the government to answer to the people. The info on contrails does not suffice. The entire issue could be put to rest with a proper act of governance, which they fail to do.
ginalee Answer what, exactly, though? Somebody pointing up into the sky and asking: 'What's that' ? Imo, the questions have been answered, you just dispute what has been said. You say chemtrails they say contrails (even though there are chemicals in the contrails). I do know that in your view there are these different trails/clouds other than what is described as 'contrails'. Yet, you have not shown me an e.g of a 'chemtrail/cloud' I don't think that is too much to ask for. All you have actually put up is a photo-shopped picture. I'm not quite sure why you can't just say: I oppose the increase in commercial flights that are increasingly blighting out atmosphere. To be fair, this really should not be about if these things exist or not. As at a certain point we hit a brick wall. Which is now. Plus, it was supposed to be about something entirely different, wasn't it?