Church Operations Business

Nobody close any meeting.

Was there a vote to close the meeting.


I for one made an objection to closing the meeting. There was actual continuing business
at hand and a live Motion on the floor. That would mean that if the meeting was close by someone than it was illegally close.

Ranger, Ill write that in the minute for the state and the IRS, Ok?

 

We have done everything that Chris has said.

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The Incoroporator(WHO? is calling the meeting? you, Ranger Nails, AC, Mike) Is calling ALL MEMBERS (you can even stipulate VOTING MEMBERS)To approve the Establishment of the Cof GE 2013.

TO all members of the Cof GE we are Having our formationl meeting where we will go over approve our:
A. Status/(Church where headquaters is etc.
B. Approve bylaws *utilize a basic set of BYLAWS that contain the basic NEEDED stuff that ALL BUSINESSES/ORGANAZITIONS use that you can now conform to your specfic needs.
C. Establish a BOARD OF DIRECTORS as per BYLAWS
D. Elect Officers as per Bylaws.
E. Establish a Bank account (IF NEEDED) yada yada
f.yada yada yada
G,yada yada yada
H Discuss any other Business that may come up durning this meeting.

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We did a formal announcement in the church. The actual church only exist as the people in the Church of the Good Earth forum.

That is all the announcement that could possibly be required.
The rest of the people who didn't show, can't vote here anyhow. They don't attend this church.

The first pages of this meeting space post all of the stuff on Chris' list above. Legal and done.

This formation meeting has been available for anyone to show up in and participate in for fifteen days now. Most real meeting last for 2 hours in 1 day.
I don't know what more we could have done. Drive to their house and give them a free ride to the meeting???? I'll do that.

Everything that we have accomplished is all legal and valid.

We did what Chris said. Everybody in the Church of the Good Earth forum was informed.

 

:seeya:

Doesn't work.

I did it, and the chair didn't both to respond. I think that the seeya is broken or something.

 

There was no continuing biz in that I see no 2nd to your motion.

 

Go back and read 7 pages about voting.

:seeya:

 

We're still waiting the you to vote on the second and the third item. Do you care to voting on those?

Will Mary be voting on the third item?

it might make it much easier to move along.

And Nobody voted to end this meeting. There was no vote. And I did object to the closing of this meeting with very valid reasons, which I might add were simply ignored be the Chair. Which would never have happen in an inperson meeting.

 

:seeya:

 

I see now that my vote on the 'third item' is invalid unless you can show me where it recieved a second.

 

yes Kenny?

 

Hi ALL
Before I leave (I am going to Molokai TO HEAL and work on the issues there) I JUST wanted to SUGGEST (and as ALWAYS this is only my experiance with 501c3 etc stuff AND ONLY MY OPINION and opinions are like assholes or bellybuttons..EVERYBODY HAS ONE) that you all GET the EIN and the FORMAL STATE recognazation FIRST!. OR NOT lol BUT that recognition is what makes you an entity IN THERE EYES! NO Bylaws are even involved until you become RECOGINIZED.......THEN you go through all that shit.

If you all love each other then you will cover each others back and ensure you are all not setting up each other for dissapointment!

But hey maybe that does not even matter...

I based all info I passed on BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS ASKED HOW DID I GET IT DONE BEFORE??? AND I must have assumed that you wanted to recoganized by the Feds and State AS A LEGAL Entity......so that you could then apply for NON PROFIT status and move on! IT DOES NOT HAPPEN in the MANS eyes because you SAY SO!!!

IF you do not want to be recognized ( BY THE FEDS and or State) then you all can do whatever you want in what ever order you want!

Lastly you DO NOT SEND YOUR MINUTES to the FEDS/IRS/STATE/ETC> YOUR MINUTES are YOUR MINUTES to reflect in house what you meet about and do!!! IF you get to a place where you need to provide MINUTES to the FEDs or State then you are BEING INVESTIGATED for something!!

I guess the PHRASE KEEP IT SIMPLE will not work! BUT I LOVE you all.

1.FILE your FORM ARTICLES (they are self explanatory)
2. GET your EIN/OR CHURCH ID from IRS IT AIN't that complicated!
FIRST!!!!!!! Just agree or not who you want to do these things!! BUT SOMBODY DO IT.

THEN HAVE YOUR FIRST GENERAL MEETING TO APPROVE ALL THE STUFF YOU HAVE BEEN Discussing.....for days. SHIT use all this stuff THEN and superimpose it/cut and paste it into the COPORATE BOOK that you will have then but THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE YET! GEEZ!!!

But hey like I said I love you all and I ONLY wanted to help. I WAS ASKED. I also THOUGHT I SAW Ranger(who is a WISE PERSON) comment somewhere stating that the desire was to INITIALLY KEEP IT SIMPLE to become recoganized.

Get those two things done and start off and run with it.
OR GET A LAWYER!!!!!!

I am leaving to go to Hawaii. I Intend to HEAL and have an ANNUAL MEETING of a 501c3 in Halawa Valley on Molokai!!

PEACE and LOVE IN CAPS!!!
wickwah

ps geez I never ment to "HELP" in causing trouble for anyone and now that my coffee has settled I am going to the Crapper and "PINCH A GRUMPY!!!" I wanted to "slip a smoothy" and finish preparations to leave but I came here to see how you all were!

wishing you all the best and you may see me lurking as I am just a stupid old hippie!! Nuff said!!!

 

Since YOU Kenny, kept bringing up that nothing has been closed or voted on etc. and you were bitching about EVERYTHING we said or did in every situation, Even when I brought them forward and SHOWED YOU, you were still not satisfied. As far as me and Ranger knew we has motioned for a closing and it was second and we closed the meeting. You were off SHAVING your head ( talk about being stupid) You did not wait, you did not take the time to read what was said in your absents and started going off on a tear

 

Okay Ranger, fair enough.

Would you care to second it?

Because if we can't close the vote then we can't very well ever close the meeting. Correct?

You can second it. Or I can telephone Mike.

 

I suggested the smiley so that we would know when someone wanted the floor.. otherwise it could take days before we saw it as you flood the room with crap we already decided on and voted on. You keep bring it up that it wasn't motioned, voted on or closed.. every fucking time there is a vote. Again I have showed you all the motion, the seconds and the voting and closing of the vote.

What more do you expect or want Kenny. Say it plain english without it being 3 pages long

 

I second for the third time to close

 

Page 435

 

Yes I read all that was said.


I can log off and still read threads.

I am just trying to close all of the voting, and a keep it all legal and proper.

No, you 2 voted to close the meeting then me and mike weren't counted. I voted against.

Well, the meeting closed then???

Now you are saying the nothing that we have done is valid and counts. It wasn't a real meeting anyhow.

And we elect a president who only wants to close meetings for a living. LOL

Lets start a meeting. Ajourned.

Cool.

So the past 15 days don't count cause somebody who can't get into facebook didn't get notified.
Nothing counts.

Great.

I will eagerly await your formal notice of the Formation Meeting.
You have my e-mail address

 

Your motion fails for lack of a second therefore there is no motion to vote on. Incorrect! The meeting was closed yesterday pm.

 

As I stated, I was trying to make it easy for you to keep minutes. I only made suggestion.
Now Have we got the three votes to close the voting????

 

If the meeting is closed then why are you and I here and debating in the meeting space?


I don't get it.

 

That does it, jumps up and slaps kenny upside the head..