Church Operations Business

Hi ALL Kenny asked me what I might know about filing etc. Here is what I sent to him I hope I am helping and not causing any issues I love you all PEACE
WICKWAH

To Kenny:
Hi Kenny just dropped back in to see where you all are.

I think that you all having the discussions that you have done is a good thing but it is my opinion (NOW ONLY me now saying this) I think you all are kinda jumping forward and trying to get your formational meeting done BEFORE you even have a LEGAL "Church"? Now IF you all just want to have a GROUP of folks who state stuff then that is fine BUT the following is what I KNOW to be true RE being a real OFFICAL LEGAL RECOGNAZIED Organazation (Please remember I spell horriablly)

Before you all go through these things I think you will find you will have to repeat all of this once you are a RECOGANIZED Entity!

I suggest that ONE of you become the incoporator that can should get the very first DUCKS IN A ROW..

1. Is the Name available...I think I read that it is by Cakes in Texas so I assume you will register in Texas??

2. Get the basic texas Articles of incororation form (MAYBE two or 3 pages AT MOST from the Web site. File your BASIC ARTICLES (Like I said this is probally a 2 page form that you can get from the STATE of texas office of Consumer affairs or some something like that) NOW when you get the form you will need to deside WHO is or are going to be the INITAL Incororators with names addresses etc. (THESE should be your initial BOARD OF DIRECTORS!!) FILE this with the State,

ALSO at the same time contact the IRS and get the form to get an EIN ...you can even do this over the phone if you have the patience

AFTER you recieve your EIN you want IRS form1023 to apply for Non Profit Status. It is a long form BUT it is very self evident what you have to fill in. (NOW I DO NOT KNOW if a CHURCH is exactly the same as the regular Filings for non profit status. BUT it is laid out in form 1023

Then you or whoever the incoporator is will finally have all the needed stuff AND YOU WILL be legal in the State and with the Feds.

UNTIL THEN HAVING A MEETING TO ESTABLISH BY LAWS ETC is moot as it will not matter as they mean nothing until and unless you are REAL in the eyes of the State and Feds!!
Just make sure you File the Articles within whichever State you choose as your home OFFICE.

THEN the best way I found to go about approving or establishing your ways of the inner workings is to CALL a FORMATIONAL MEETING, HAVE AN AGENA for all BEFORE you call this meeting.... Get out an Agenda to all members LIKE:

AGENDA: Meeting to be held for the Formation of C of G.E. 2013 on (Date) at (HOW or where do you intend to hold this meeting)

The Incoroporator(WHO? is calling the meeting? you, Ranger Nails, AC, Mike) Is calling ALL MEMBERS (you can even stipulate VOTING MEMBERS)To approve the Establishment of the Cof GE 2013.

TO all members of the Cof GE we are Having our formationl meeting where we will go over approve our:
A. Status/(Church where headquaters is etc.
B. Approve bylaws *utilize a basic set of BYLAWS that contain the basic NEEDED stuff that ALL BUSINESSES/ORGANAZITIONS use that you can now conform to your specfic needs.
C. Establish a BOARD OF DIRECTORS as per BYLAWS
D. Elect Officers as per Bylaws.
E. Establish a Bank account (IF NEEDED) yada yada
f.yada yada yada
G,yada yada yada
H Discuss any other Business that may come up durning this meeting.

Adjourn.....

Not sure this helps but I am on overload now lol

PEACE and LOVE Brother
wickwah

 

Jesus.
You people could complicate a two car funeral.
I have spent the last 30 minutes reading the day's posts.
Since the rest of you appear to have gone night-night, and I am heading that way myself about 15 minutes ago, I will hold any discussion, comments or votes until tomorrow.

Your brother in fuzziness,

Ace

 

i VOTE YES FOR ENDING VOTING FOR OFFICERS
i VOTE YES FOR ENDING VOTING FOR BI-LAW
and i vote yes on the third issue.
mike bedell

 

Good Morning Brothers and Sisters,

In view of what Chris (tillerwah) has posted as our consultant. I see this as a practice run..

I think at this point, to erase all the confusion and wordy methods we can come to an agreement that we indeed need to regroup, start over.

The First Step, as Chris points out. We need to hold a Formation Meeting.
Since everyone has said who they wanted to Chair already, perhaps we can hold the FM with a bit more organization and just start the process on a more informed platform.

I suggest we call a Formation Meeting with a date and time, and that everyone has due notice of said FM. I further suggest that we give a 3 day notice and that the FM will start at 1:00 pm on 3rd day after notice has been sent out.

As most of us are on the internet at this time on any given day.

I recommend we keep a formal discussion where we use this smiley :seeya: to raise your hand and ask to be heard. Sidebar: to make this smiley you use the Colon then type seeya and then another colon. colonseeyacolon but use the : to make the colon and do not type Colon.

While someone has the floor there will be no other discussion until they release the floor for discussion back to The Chair. Then The Chairperson will formally open the floor for motions discussions and voting.

If everyone has been notified and they show up. Then they will be an organizational member, or which ever that is called. We can decide that in our formation Meeting.

We have gone over everything already, the Bylaws and Mission Statement. We have voted on Officers. So everything is mostly in place. There shouldn't be much if any discussion on any of the motions or voting bc we have all mostly decided. Of course this does not mean there wont be any. The floor is open for all discussion, when you ask for the floor with the :seeya: and are granted it by the chairperson you my voice your opinion/request.

With that said and we are basically aware of what we need to do to make our Formation Meeting and our other Meetings are more stabilized and formal so the Secretary will have accurate Minutes to present to the Feds.

I think we should send individual notices to each Good Earth Member via the internet. I will do this as I have them all on my list. I will state the time and place and ask for their attendance in a formal way and we will see who is interested and who is not.

We will conduct ourselves in a civil manner and respect Robert's Rules and each other in all meetings.

I suggest, that Ranger Chair, I co Chair with Ranger. Kenny is Secretary and co chair along with Ranger and I and I co Secretary with Kenny until a formal nomination, seconded and voted on can be held.

If we can get every interested party in here at the same time we can get though all of this in a matter of maybe 1 1/2 hour or less bc we already hashed it out.

We can keep this meeting open for, let's say two days and then motion and vote to close The Formation Meeting and open a New Meeting for the Bylaws and Mission Statement.

We, as I said before have already done this in our "practice run" and it will go by quickly. Then we can CLOSE That Meeting formally and Open the floor to Nominating , seconding and voting on Officers. ONE STEP AT A TIME.

When all nominees have been nominated and agree to the Responsibility of the position they hold we can close that meeting.

When the Meetings are over Kenny and I will do the minutes in an orderly manner so the FEDS/State will take us seriously.

What say Ye Brothers and Sisters can we all agree to do this, with love in the most perfect way.

cakes

 

shameless_heifer,

Uh, Excuse me.

This is our Formation Meeting.

You directly e-mailed to everyone who could possibly wish to know about it.

You publicly announced to the Entire World via the Internet that this would be the Meeting about making the Church of the Good Earth into a legally incorporated nonprofit corporation.

Announced
(1) ON the Home website of the Actual ongoing Church. The only existing actual "Church of the Good Earth" in the world and the only one that anybody can find listed on the Internet by doing a web search. As Ranger once pointed out, if you search for the "Church of the Good Earth" on the Internet, this is the only one.

(2) On facebook to the Entire World, and publicly announced on the most appropriate place in ALL of facebook.

Most Formation announcement DO NOT go out to the Entire World. Only mailed or physically posted to a small concerned group.

 

:seeya:
:seeya:
:seeya:

 

A half hour has gone by.


You're style of having a meting is not working at all.

I vote NO on is.

And I refuse to use smilies because they are stupid, and they CAN NOT be reproduced in print for the I.R.S. minutes.

 

:seeya:
:seeya:
:seeya:

 

Alright, this is our formation meeting, all this nominating and voting is null and void util
we close the Formation Meeting and open a new meeting to nominate, second and vote on Officers The close that meeting and open a new one to vote on bylaw and the close that meeting and open a new meeting for our Mission Statement

Is That CORRECT?

 

I don't have enough blood left in my veins to go through all of this a second time.
Count me out.

 

I vote no, to everything that you suggested.

Now can we have a debate. Before you vote all of the votes at once.

 

Kenny,
The icon is just a way to have the floor as a RAISE OF HAND. so you could just type so and so raised their hand to be recognized.

AND BTW.. the GE in FB is a SMALL GROUP where only members are allowed in. Some one has to know the person making the request to be allowed to join the SMALL GROUP.

 

Nothing is null and void at this meeting.
This is the formation meeting and our very first General Meeting.

You have notifies the ENTIRE World on the Internet.

This is a Legal formation meeting and out very first General Meeting.

Everything that we have voted on here is completely valid and legal and all is valid.

What you said in NOT correct.

 

We aren't having a meeting now, Kenny. We are just having an informal discussion as to if we should have a meeting or not. Myself, I vote for breakfast. Besides our co-chair/treasurer is a very sick woman today, so let's keep it simple Kenny.

 

These were only suggestions Kenny. You dont have to go ballistic.. It was to make things EASIER for you to take the minutes..

 

You obviously didn't read this.

We only need to make a public announcement within our Church. If you attend the Church, then you are aware of the meeting announcement. The Church is on this web site. face book is NOT the Church. Only Here. We HAVE INFORMED ALL MEMBERS.

 

If YOU have everything needed for the Minutes then GREAT. We can close and get the filing done. if this is agreeable to YOU and everyone else, go for it.

and please stop yelling at me bc you are NEVER SATISFIED no matter what anyone else does. If it isn't your idea it's no good.. well there are more than just you to consider here, your opinion counts as 1 vote it does not make it unanimous, or Supreme.

So back the fuck off of me and stop being so damned hard to get along with.

 

I'm not bullistic.

However. I would NOT have people canceling everything that we have accomplished, simply because they have missread what Chris has posted.


Look, you go e-mail every person on you list and if you can get 3 more people to care or bother to show up for your 3 o'clock meeting, then I will back EVERYTHING that you said. EVEN the stupid smilys.

I originally intended for this meeting to be a formation meeting. I have know idea what you guys thought that it was. We are HERE organizing or Forming a nonprofit corporation.

What the Hell else would you call it? A quilting circle?
We have hel

 

I wish to point out again yesterdays meeting was closed formally and no meeting has been called to order this morning. We are still in informal discussion mode. Kenny, you wanted Chris's opion and now you seemingly want to ignore it. ???

 

This meeting has been going since Dec 29. Today is Jan 14th. This meeting has been going on for 15 day. Every one who comes to the Church of the Good Earth web space knows about the meeting and they haven't showed up withing 15 days.

Why would they suddenly show up at 3:00 p.m central time on one particular day?
They don't care and they ain't coming.

And I ain't yelin'

We've are a properly notified Formation meeting and a first General Meeting.

Anyone how cared to show up to form a nonprofit church would have to show up by going to the first page of this thread. The first and second f this thread lists EVERYTHING the Tillerwah has stated that members should be imformed about. bylaws, mission statement, officer, it is all there. in the first pages of this thread. The fomation announcement.

If they can't don't by within 15 Days?

It says right in the Bylaws. You can only be a voting Operational Member IF you are involved at this CHURCH forum.

Did you notify everybody who has been in the Church of the Good Earth forum withing the past month or 2?

That's all we. need.

As Ranger points out. The space on facebook is named Good Earth Commune.
The only Church of the Good Earth is over here.