Church Operations Business

I vote to adopt the Charter and close the vote

That's 2 votes for. So far.

 

Next going up the list of Officers, would be what we're calling General Secretary.

In an effort to condense 5 or 6 officers in the original list down to 3 officers, many duties were added to the 3 remaining offices. Most of these duties were lumped into this position and the word "General" was added to the title.

So, this is a very powerful position.
"And with great power comes great responsibilities." Isn't that from the Spiderman Movie?

This is the old Recording Secretary position, expanded to become the Vice-presidents duties, and to include as needed the old Communications Secretary's Job. This is the biggest job. One for Heros. Your kind of job.

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ARTICLE III: OFFICERS

Section 5:

C: General Secretary: The General Secretary shall have all of the responsibilities of a Vice President, including presiding over general organization meetings and Executive Board meetings in the absence of or instead of the President, serving as the official representative of the organization, and the responsibility of retaining all official records of the organization. Oversee any committee system of the Church of the Good Earth.

Act as a Recording Secretary and thereby record and distribute minutes of all Executive Board meetings and all general Church of the Good Earth meetings, prepare agendas for up coming official Church of the Good Earth meetings, and hold historical records for the Church of the Good Earth.

The position may possibly act as a Communications Secretary. managing communications and marketing for the Church of the Good Earth, including but not limited to Church of the Good Earth newsletters, email broadcasts, website, bulletin boards, etc.

This position maybe administered by more that one person, as needed.

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Tell us if you want this one. Okay?

:sunny:

 

I am reviewing each of these so that we all can get a grip on what each is about.

Like Mike said, responsibilities. Thanks Mike.

Next of course is the long awaited position of President.

The term "president" means the "one who presides". obviously president is preside -nt. You preside over the meetings. We have two types. This is a General Meeting with any and all Operational Members. Next we will need to have a very short Executive Board Meeting. Our very first and official. Just for the books.

By the way, the word president is ALWAYS spelled with a lower case or small "p" like "president" because it is NOT King. Unless it is the first word in a sentence, of course.
If the word is in front of somebody's proper name then the "p" is capitalized. "President Sally."

To be president one would need to show up. At meetings. The basic job at meetings is to oversee who speaks first and second. To ask if a motion would be seconded. To oversee debates, challenges, and votes. To open and close meetings.

 

ARTICLE III: OFFICERS

Section 5: THE DUTIES OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE OFFICERS

subsection
B: President: President, also know as the Chairperson or the Director. The President shall preside over general organization meetings and Executive Board meetings, serve as the official representative of the organization, and retain all official records of the organization. Execute and be the administrator of any works or programs. Oversee any committee system of the Church of the Good Earth.

This position maybe co-chaired by more than one person, as needed.

 

Also this, after items are voted on and approved:

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ARTICLE V: FINANCIAL POLICIES

Section 6: CONTRACTS
Authority to sign contracts is limited to the President or the President’s designee.

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And other responsibilities as mentioned throughout the bylaws.

 

Sheeesh. You think that its work to read all that. Try writing it all.
Talk about a responsibility. Amen and Thank you God.

So, that's the deal.

As you can see each of these positions known as subsections B, C, and D, each end with the statement:

"This position maybe co-chaired by more than one person, as needed."

This means that if you what to do the position but NOT alone, you can get with somebody else and run to co-chair one position or even more, with you.

Eventually the I.R.S. with want 3 people and 3 real names, I think that's the deal.

If 1, 2, or 3, people want to co-chair something, our bylaws allow that.

Get with others. Figure it out. Okay? After all we must have officers. Get all excited!
We are almost there. And We are about to file.

 

I need a brain break.

You guys are all on-line right NOW. its your responsibility to TALK, now. Say what you will
Its your Talking Stick.

mike bedell PM X
Ranger PM X
shameless_heife... PM X
Tillerwah

(smile)

 

I adopt and vote yes on subsections B, C and D

 

We also need 2 more votes to close the bylaws voting. Please

And we still need a second on the motion to end or close the voting for Executive Board Members. And afterward hopefully 4 votes min to close that.

Unless Tillerwah changes his mind all of a sudden and wished to be on the Executive Board. I believe that he had said no to that.

Wah, you are a voting Operational Member, of course. You participate as much as anyone. You qualify. Brother.

 

They're approved already. I'm just pointing out to everyone that offices and responsibilities can be shared by 2 or even more people.

I expect to see pages and pages of you guy all talking when I get back here.
Kenny logging off.

Bye Bye.

 

I adopt and vote yes on subsections B, C and D

 

As I already understand the chair and co chairing an office, I was wondering if everyone has the same understanding that the elected officers can and may co chair other and all offices.

And if so vote in favor of or if not tell which and why and what you offer in substitute.

 

I think you've harvested and used all the first growth words. Waiting for second growth to mature.....

 

hey guys, mike bedell here and voting yes on subsections B,C,D

 

Hi all SO...Kenny, Nails, Spud, et al... Are you are saying that All "Executive Directors of the Executive Board are to also be officers of this corporation"?

Again, as just a possiable information provider, you have all decided that the Board to will be of EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS...And it reads that you are not going to have a difinative "BOARD OF DIRECTORS". So...if you ever want to have any of these "EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS" take on any specific things you will always have to ensure that ALL of you have an EXECUTIVE Board meeting to insure this happens correctly.

Now, the way I read this, you are going to say ALL of these "Board Members" are going to be the OFFICERS of the Church??

I THINK you may be unintentionaly creating a Church that in its formation will have all Directors also being The Officers?? As you proceed down the road to IRS and State filings ALL, EVERYONE, of the Board members will now have to be listed on ALL TAX returns etc. even when no revenues are generated. AND all are responsible to ensure that ALL filings are on time and in proper order. Cool as long as you all can make that happen with every filing.

Also re: OFFICERS...You all MAY find that by making every Directing Board members The officers it may complicate (IN A BIG WAY) all of these annual/quaterlys etc filings that you will have to do. AND AS I recall you all have not even filed for an EIN etc.

Not trying to be a KKKNOW IT ALL BUT One of the reasond I declined any position was so that you all could get a STANDARD WORKABLE Situation for all Legal Filings THAT YOU MUST DO IF the Church is to REALLY COMPLY with U.S./State Regs.

In the excitement of getting this rolling I feel you may find that Your making it VERY COMPLICATED. ALL of you MUST follow ALL the filing rules with these entities in the future as you are now ALL the heads of the Hydra!

But again I am only providing info from my experiance with Feds and State for Filings etc.

A Cart full of Horses still needs to be pulled by SOMETHING, conversly an Empty cart pulled by many horses will only travel if ALL are bridled correctly to the reins. IF NO ONE is holding the REINS of the Cart it is very difficult to get antwhere!

As a member I JUST WANT to ensure/fell that the Board and Officers understand what they are getting us into when it comes to the NASTY but Necessary little things LIKE the FEDS and State Governments REGARDING COMPLIANCE ISSUES. If any Director/Officer cannot do the necessary compliance requirements, duties etc., it can effect the entire Church?

But hey I am just a member offering up questions for CLAIRTY regarding the formational intent of the Church.

NOT EVERYONE NEEDS to be Director or even an Officer to have input etc. In point of fact if EVERYONE is a Director and an Officer then it will be VERY HARD to succeed!

It may be the proper time to say this....the Board CAN BE/SHOULD be the way to ensure that ALL Sailing through the "Seas of Existance" is able, after knowable input, from members, professionals, WHOEVER, and THUS insure the Officers (WHO RUN THINGS DURING THE YEAR) are willing and able to do their NEEDED Dutites throughout theit tenure. Remember The Board (ALL OF YOU NOW) Can Rotate the Officers to ensure everyone who wants to can have a shot at their different positions over time and responsiblity can then be SHARED over time and a smooth set of GUIDELINE can be always available to follow all required duties.

As always Peace and Love
ww

ps the "Keep it simple" will surly become NOT SIMPLE at all as soon as you begin to fill out your first REQUIRED Annual Tax return.

 

wheres ga ga when you ndeed him???????

 

I may have missed where you all have condensed these issues to make management easy as all travel down the road through this new Formational aspects...IF I HAVE please as JUST a member I am only posting things as I read them and think about them. I am confident all will work to impliment best practices for the "Church" Bless you all!!

Peace and Love
ww

 

So now that we know where things are likely to be a problem, how would you set it up?

 

I think that it states that we are to have 3 Officers of the board, we all that have been voting/participating are board members but not on the exe board and that is what we are voting on now I believe. If I am in error please specify.

 

here

" In an effort to condense 5 or 6 officers in the original list down to 3 officers, many duties were added to the 3 remaining offices. Most of these duties were lumped into this position and the word "General" was added to the title."

If I'm not mistaken The General Officers can co-chair each position, there by all the 'work' doesn't fall in one lap.