Christians are hypocrites

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Zonk, Oct 13, 2004.

  1. Lilyrayne

    Lilyrayne Chrisppie

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    Now you're just stereotyping. And you called us judgemental?
     
  2. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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    No that's not a stereotypical christian...that's a make it up as you go along brand of American Tele-evangelical money making hogwash...has nothing to do with Christianity at all.
     
  3. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    There is nothing wrong with challenge and discussion... sometimes it is good to have hard questions directed at you, it can make you questions yourself and understand your faith better.
     
  4. Zonk

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    Christians are kind and caring and dont carry guns! After all what would they want one for? To kill someone? I think not!!
     
  5. Lilyrayne

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    Well obviously you don't know me very well or you would know that I'm not like that.
     
  6. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    But you do have guns... would you shoot someone?

    I have never had a gun, so the concept of owning one is weird to me... please explain, so I can understand.

    Thanks Clairexxx
     
  7. Lilyrayne

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    I agree, but it just sometimes seems like that some of you think that if you aren't a Christian and you do this, it's just challenging discussions and what not, and that you are entitled to your beliefs. If Christians do the same thing you do, we are called hypocrites and attacked left and right. People seem to forget that we have just as much right to believe what we believe as others do.

    What's funny is, this whole time I've been on here, I've always been like "believe what you want but this is what I believe. We are all entitled to believe what we choose.", even when I don't agree with someone, I don't attack them. I've always tried to stay respectful and kind of other beliefs. I state what I believe, but I don't bash them over other people's heads. Yet I'm being called everything but what I actually am. That makes no sense.
     
  8. Zonk

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    Of course I dont know you.:)

    Are you anti gay, anti abortion, anti every other religion, pro guns, pro crusade?

    If so, you have no right to call yourself a true christian. Those beliefs are NOT part of Jesus' teachings!

    And if you are a supporter of that Christian FUNDE-MENTALIST Dubya even more so!
     
  9. Lilyrayne

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    They are my husband's guns, not mine. He is his own person and he can do what he wants. Besides, yes I would use one if I wake up one night and some man I don't know is on top of me trying to rape me, you'd better believe that I will grab a gun and shoot him! I don't believe in violence but I do believe in self defense.

    If anyone thinks that I should allow myself to be raped, beat or killed in favor of not using a gun or any other method of self defense because it's "violent", I very highly disagree with this. This is just nuts. Oh, look, I'm being judgemental! :eek: Seriously though, self defense and violence are two completely different things. And self defense is the only thing I would ever use a gun for.
     
  10. Zonk

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    Im not being threatening etc...

    And I'll point out you started this thread when you removed it from being a post.

    I also have a lot of knowledge of Christianity (of which I am not against) and am simply pointing out discrepencies in what you consider to be 'christian values'.:)
     
  11. Zonk

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    The 'christians' in your society appear to be overwhelmed with such fear.
     
  12. seamonster66

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    I see no problem with using a gun for self defense, however it seems impossible for an alleged true christian to support capital punishment.
     
  13. Zonk

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    No serious follower of Jesus would take another life.

    No serious follower of Jesus would live in fear of losing their life either!
     
  14. seamonster66

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    Don't ask me, I'm just guessing. I dislike Christianity. I'm not sitting around waiting for the afterlife.
     
  15. Lilyrayne

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    No, Yes, No, Depends, and I don't know what exaclty "pro-crusade" is. I am only against abortion because I feel it to be murder, and that is from the logical workings of my brain, not just my religious beliefs. Even if I wasn't a Christian, I'd still be Anti-Abortion. But I have no problems with gays or other peope with different beliefs, and anyone that does know me on this forum can tell you that. As for guns, it really depends on the situation. If you're talking about self-defense only, then yes I am pro-guns.

    I believe that Jesus preached love for all people, and I have never said or praticed otherwise. I may not agree with a lot of things people do or say, but who does? What's important is that I love those people despite what they do or say, and I don't persecute them because I feel they are wrong. I may tell them that I feel they are wrong and why, but I leave it at that and continue on to love them and welcome them in my life as long as they pay me the same respects about their disagreements to what I believe also.
     
  16. Zonk

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    No was just making a comment...:)
     
  17. seamonster66

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    Seriously, someone explain how you can be christian and support the death penalty?

    I know most catholics don't, and even though I think thier religion is pretty strange with lots of symbolism etc. they do seem to have a lot more class than some of these trashier protestant ones.
     
  18. Sera Michele

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    The world is changing, and it is getting increasingly more diffucult to confine yourself to the dogma of an aging religion. Causing christians to look like hypocrites. But really, I know a lot of hypocrites, and you don't have to be christian to be one.
     
  19. Claire

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    Indeed... Thats why I prefer to keep the debate going whatever it is.

    I find that if you decide one thing, whether you call this a religious belief or a non religious heart felt belief, and refuse to keep an open mind and debate your cause ..... then how will you ever evolve as a human being?

    If you use religion as an umbrella for not thinking this can only be a bad thing.

    I think alot of things in the bible are wonderful and I agree with them, other things I do not.

    The fact that the bible contradicts itself a lot dosnt help its cause.

    Just my thoughts.... Love Clairexxx
     
  20. Zonk

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    Thou shalt not kill and turn the other cheek and love thy neighbour as thy self are the whole platform on which Christianity is based.

    If these aren't followed people shouldn't define themselves as christian imo.
     

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